SharonDee

Why? Do you get a secret decoder ring for bringing in the most converts?

free12thinker

You don't seem to understand one little thing:
We're not spoonfed. Or bottlefed. Or dependent on anyone. In short, we are not followers. We are not going to come to "Christ" just because someone asks us nicely to. Nope. We're made of sugar, spice, spiders and that little thing called logic. We simply cannot believe, no matter how many times someone (like you) asks us to.

Atheism isn't a hangover or a form of hypnosis. Please...explain to me how you would expect us to cross over, without any reason or logic behind doing so?

Um...don't answer that. You're a follower, and you probably assume everyone else is. If you weren't a follower and you held true logic and reason, you wouldn't hide behind scriptures.

GunnerJ

Looking at the actions of God as described in the Bible I don't know how one could have a high view of his nature.

Eudaimonist

Why should I become a Christian just because you ask and say please?

Why not join the Baha'i Faith, Buddhism, Confucianism, Hinduism, Islam, Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism, Vodun (Voodoo), Caodaism, Damanhur Community, Druse, Eckankar, Gnosticism, Hare Krishna, Lukumi, Macumba, Mowahhidoon, Native American Spirituality, New Age, Osho ® (followers of Rajneesh), Satanism, Scientology, Thelema, Unitarian-Universalism, World Church of the Creator, Zoroastrianism, or any of the dozens of other religions? What if a member of one of these groups were to ask me to join them and say pretty please?

Would you become an atheist if we asked you and said please?

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Slex

I find Paul really annoying, too. Especially Romans, chapter 9 makes me outrageous. I think that Christianity would be a much better religion without the Pauline writings inckuded in the cannon.

Bree

As far as I can tell - this is just Paul talking. This is not GOD talking. So therefore, there is no place in the NT where GOD/JESUS says that committing homosexual acts are a sin.

Jesus himself said that false prophets would come in his name - but He did not tell us WHO the false prophets are. Is it, then, entirely possible for Paul to have been a false prophet? How would anyone but Jesus (having been fed with the holy light of knowledge from God the Father) know for a fact who was a false prophet and who was not?

Remember, Paul was not a disciple, not one of the original twelve. The blinding light on the road to Damascus could well have been the Devil - and who are we to say that we are omnsicient and know that it was or was not?

LadyShea - I too have a dim view of Paul .

Atticus_Finch

Obviously, you may take whatever position you like regarding Paul's teachings. However, the church, i.e. orthrodox Christianity, has always accepted Paul's writings as inspired by God and therefore authoritative.

Regards,

Finch

Bree

Can you please tell me why the church has always accepted his writings? What makes Paul as holy as Jesus - and Paul surely must be as holy as Jesus, if we are to take his supposed writings with the same seriousness as we do Jesus' words.