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Peoples Revolution · 02-02-2005, 08:49 PM

Loren Pechtel

You said that true riches are measured in power. I will remember that you said that. for a rainy day.

You also said that you suspect China is behind the insurgency, were you implying that it is wrong for one country to influence and or force change in a country for there own countries gain? Or were you just making an observation.

Monkeybot · 02-02-2005, 08:55 PM

So far, emphryio wins the Making Sense award.

Loren Pechtel · 02-02-2005, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peoples Revolution

Loren Pechtel

You said that true riches are measured in power. I will remember that you said that. for a rainy day.

You also said that you suspect China is behind the insurgency, were you implying that it is wrong for one country to influence and or force change in a country for there own countries gain? Or were you just making an observation.

Out of context.

I'm saying the truly rich are measured in power, not money. That doesn't mean the average or even well to do person's worth is measured in power.

Peoples Revolution · 02-02-2005, 11:19 PM

well to do? rich? powerful?

I bet these words are going to be juggled around alot.

Space Chef · 02-03-2005, 06:24 AM

Long live the revolution

Isn't this a logical error? A revolution has to end. Of course it could also mean a Jefferson-like "revolution" that should happen every so often. So, as a play on the title of a Gore Vidal book, "perpetual revolution for perpetual peace/equality". Which presents even more problems, such as the fact that in a revolution a type of 'leader' is required.

Anyway, fuck the king and the rebels.

emphryio · 02-03-2005, 07:14 AM

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Anyway, fuck the king and the rebels.

Fuck such a sentiment.

Unlike the Israel/Palestine conflict, which the people here go on about incessantly, this conflict at least isn't fueled by religious nuts on both sides.

J-D · 02-07-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel

And that's supposed to accomplish something besides sound good?

Insurgencies like this are because someone wants it to happen. I strongly suspect China is behind it.

Of course insurgencies only happen if somebody wants them to: the insurgents, for a start. But why would you suggest that insurgencies are impossible without an external state sponsor? That's not what history says to me. And what makes you suspect China in this particular case? I know the insurgents call themselves Maoists, but what does that prove at this point in history? The Sendero Luminoso in Peru called themselves Maoists too: do you think China, or any external state sponsor, was backing them?

J-D · 02-07-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by emphryio

Fuck such a sentiment.

Unlike the Israel/Palestine conflict, which the people here go on about incessantly, this conflict at least isn't fueled by religious nuts on both sides.

True. But what difference does it make? I wouldn't want to be bombed out of my home, for example, and it would be no consolation to me to be told, at least the people who did it weren't religious nuts.

Fatewarns · 02-07-2005, 05:03 PM

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Of course Nepal was the only country Britain was unsuccessful at colonizing. The British were so impressed with the fighting of the Nepalese they made an agreement to get the Nepalese to fight as mercenaries for them. That was 200 years ago and the British still have Ghurkas.

So Nepal might literally be the last nation on earth that the US should attempt to invade.

Comparing how the US fights in wars to 19th century warfare is generally a bad idea.

emphryio · 02-07-2005, 08:14 PM

You mean like how they US is fighting in Iraq right now?

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02-02-2005, 08:49 PM	#21
Peoples Revolution Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 66	Loren Pechtel You said that true riches are measured in power. I will remember that you said that. for a rainy day. You also said that you suspect China is behind the insurgency, were you implying that it is wrong for one country to influence and or force change in a country for there own countries gain? Or were you just making an observation.

02-02-2005, 08:55 PM	#22
Monkeybot Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 8,102	So far, emphryio wins the Making Sense award.

02-02-2005, 11:19 PM	#24
Peoples Revolution Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 66	well to do? rich? powerful? I bet these words are going to be juggled around alot.

02-03-2005, 06:24 AM	#25
Space Chef Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ...in a dark house somewhere in the world. Posts: 3,598	Long live the revolution Isn't this a logical error? A revolution has to end. Of course it could also mean a Jefferson-like "revolution" that should happen every so often. So, as a play on the title of a Gore Vidal book, "perpetual revolution for perpetual peace/equality". Which presents even more problems, such as the fact that in a revolution a type of 'leader' is required. Anyway, fuck the king and the rebels.

02-07-2005, 08:14 PM	#30
emphryio Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: WV Posts: 4,369	You mean like how they US is fighting in Iraq right now?

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