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Grad Student Humanist · 03-28-2003, 06:39 PM

Tell him to change his screen name. He's an embarrasment to the genuine article.

Bubba · 03-28-2003, 06:44 PM

It's rubbish like Socrates responses that made me begin to thing evolution was true in the firt place.

Bubba

Dr.GH · 03-28-2003, 08:20 PM

Tui is the norse god of war. Translated from the Roman war god Mars we get Martes=Tuesday.

I was motivated to register at theology web. I might try limiting my responses to bible threads instead of science threads. I am not sure.

Celsus · 03-28-2003, 11:39 PM

I eventually abandoned theology web because separating the wheat from the chaff (won't the Christians like that analogy?) was far too much effort. I did have some reasonable discussions, but the most fun was really with Socrates, whose pathetic attempts at calling me names had me rolling on the floor. I liked his old avatar which showed a rather grouchy looking bust of the philosopher. He admits to natural selection and mutations (but only through loss of information). All you need to get him to admit is that increases in information are possible, and he'll be a bona fide evolutionist. He obviously sees the trap of admitting to new information, no matter how insignificant. When I chased him on it, he stuck his head in the sand. If someone with more patience than me could remind him of this...

Joel

HRG · 03-29-2003, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Demigawd
Tyr is another name for that god.

Etymologically, Tiu is a cognate of Zeus, the "Iu" in Iuppiter and Sanskrit dyaus = heaven. He is interesting because IIRC he seems to be the only god in the Old Germanic pantheon who has indo-germanic roots (dyeus*).

Regards,
HRG.

Butters · 03-29-2003, 07:39 AM

I tried to be reasonable. I tried to be polite. I tried to stick to the facts. But after being repeatedly told that evolution is a lie, backed by all scientists, who only publish lies, to promote their atheistic agenda, while at the same time being barreged by creationist lies, well, my patience ran thin. This socrates is a nut, and has admitted that there is no emperical evidence for creationism, but the fact that the Bible is written by the only eyewitnees to creation (God) should be proof beyond all doubt that creationism is a FACT.

Advocatus Diaboli · 03-29-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Butters
This socrates is a nut, and has admitted that there is no emperical evidence for creationism, but the fact that the Bible is written by the only eyewitnees to creation (God) should be proof beyond all doubt that creationism is a FACT.

Well, that's all I need to know. Can't believe I was stupid enought to trust those evil atheist scientists!!!

Nickle · 03-29-2003, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Vorkosigan
Who is "Tiu?"

salud!

Vorkosigan · 03-30-2003, 01:07 AM

<stirring music on>

I'm sorry, are you getting any results over there by being polite. I'm sure the heck not. :banghead:

Yes, we both are -- just not with Socrates. Every time an evangelical's head nods silently, we score. Hold fast to that. As long as we don't sink to the level of Holding or Socrates, we've won. The advantage of being right, you know. As you know many thoughtful Christians have trouble stemming the flood of cognitive dissonance, no matter how well they have trained themselves in the doublethink necessary to be Christians. Those people need us.

<stirring music off. Wipes tear from eye>

Though I must say I am having a decent conversation over there with Captian Orche. Wienerdog is good too.

Those two are OK. I like Ochre.

I went madly out of my way with Socretes to be nice, but once its indicated that you disagree with his religion you are a misotheist. I had never heard that term before meeting him. I still haven't looked it up, I'm sure it isn't nice.

I never heard it either. Just continue to be nice. We can't lose, you know.

Vorkosigan

lpetrich · 03-30-2003, 01:18 AM

misotheist = god-hater
(So if one rejects the existence of Zeus, one is a Zeus-hater?)

Tiu is the Old English version of the Old Norse deity Tyr, like Woden ~ Odin.

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03-28-2003, 06:39 PM	#11
Grad Student Humanist Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Melrose, MA Posts: 961	Tell him to change his screen name. He's an embarrasment to the genuine article.

03-28-2003, 06:44 PM	#12
Bubba Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orient, OH USA Posts: 1,501	It's rubbish like Socrates responses that made me begin to thing evolution was true in the firt place. Bubba

03-28-2003, 08:20 PM	#13
Dr.GH Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dana Point, Ca, USA Posts: 2,115	Tui is the norse god of war. Translated from the Roman war god Mars we get Martes=Tuesday. I was motivated to register at theology web. I might try limiting my responses to bible threads instead of science threads. I am not sure.

03-28-2003, 11:39 PM	#14
Celsus Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,875	I eventually abandoned theology web because separating the wheat from the chaff (won't the Christians like that analogy?) was far too much effort. I did have some reasonable discussions, but the most fun was really with Socrates, whose pathetic attempts at calling me names had me rolling on the floor. I liked his old avatar which showed a rather grouchy looking bust of the philosopher. He admits to natural selection and mutations (but only through loss of information). All you need to get him to admit is that increases in information are possible, and he'll be a bona fide evolutionist. He obviously sees the trap of admitting to new information, no matter how insignificant. When I chased him on it, he stuck his head in the sand. If someone with more patience than me could remind him of this... Joel

03-29-2003, 07:39 AM	#16
Butters Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston Texas Posts: 444	I tried to be reasonable. I tried to be polite. I tried to stick to the facts. But after being repeatedly told that evolution is a lie, backed by all scientists, who only publish lies, to promote their atheistic agenda, while at the same time being barreged by creationist lies, well, my patience ran thin. This socrates is a nut, and has admitted that there is no emperical evidence for creationism, but the fact that the Bible is written by the only eyewitnees to creation (God) should be proof beyond all doubt that creationism is a FACT.

03-30-2003, 01:07 AM	#19
Vorkosigan Contributor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Barrayar Posts: 11,866	<stirring music on> I'm sorry, are you getting any results over there by being polite. I'm sure the heck not. :banghead: Yes, we both are -- just not with Socrates. Every time an evangelical's head nods silently, we score. Hold fast to that. As long as we don't sink to the level of Holding or Socrates, we've won. The advantage of being right, you know. As you know many thoughtful Christians have trouble stemming the flood of cognitive dissonance, no matter how well they have trained themselves in the doublethink necessary to be Christians. Those people need us. <stirring music off. Wipes tear from eye> Though I must say I am having a decent conversation over there with Captian Orche. Wienerdog is good too. Those two are OK. I like Ochre. I went madly out of my way with Socretes to be nice, but once its indicated that you disagree with his religion you are a misotheist. I had never heard that term before meeting him. I still haven't looked it up, I'm sure it isn't nice. I never heard it either. Just continue to be nice. We can't lose, you know. Vorkosigan

03-30-2003, 01:18 AM	#20
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	misotheist = god-hater (So if one rejects the existence of Zeus, one is a Zeus-hater?) Tiu is the Old English version of the Old Norse deity Tyr, like Woden ~ Odin.

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