sphinx wui

Would any body please open the link above and explain to me where is the plagiarism or even any link between what I wrote and this article cause I am stupid.

The letter to Kennedy, the author of �years of boiling� got a copy from the Egyptian archives and also some of the documents in his book got it from American sources through �freedom of information� act
What I wrote was how I look at things in a panoramic view so I didn�t bother to document every piece of information I wrote and to trace it back to its source other than the letter from Nasser to Kennedy.

For every body; thanks for the correction of the spelling errors and I hope you pay more attention to the content besides paying attention to the spelling.

Omar

PalestineChic19

on the subject of Saudi society, the first thing is that people on the outside looking in (especially americans) have a lot of misconceptions about what it's like. not everyone there is Islamic, but everyone just goes along with it because of the obvious consequences for deconverting(death). and the Saudi royal family believes that they are the best muslims in the world. (even though AT LEAST 2 of the princes are secretly gay!!) they also think that they have the best islamic society, and that everyone else is unbelievers, they're not good muslim countries, and they're going to pay for it when the "rapture" comes. but they especially have a grudge against the Americans and the Egyptians (even though they're trading parteners with america! i.e., $oil$) A LOT goes on behind closed doors in Saudi. A lot of things Haram(forbidden) especially!! (i.e.- most wealthy Saudi men have wet bars or liquer cabinets, even though alcohol is expressly haram by Islamic law!) and they're excellent about covering it up.

-Samirah

sphinx wui

some sources from the net about my post.

onwar.com/aced/data/yankee/yemennorthciv1962.htm

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..........In the north, meanwhile, Imam Ahmad died (of natural causes) in late September 1962, and his son, Muhammad al-Badr, became imam. Within a week, however, elements of the military, supported by a variety of political organizations (and quite possibly some foreign powers), attempted to assassinate the new imam and declared the foundation of the Yemen Arab Republic. The imam escaped into the northern highlands and began the traditional process of rallying the tribes to his cause. The new republic called upon Egypt for assistance; Egyptian troops and equipment arrived almost immediately to defend the new regime of 'Abd Allah as-Sallal...


In North Yemen, the conflict between the imam's royalist forces and the republicans had escalated into civil war. Participation, however, was not limited to the Yemenis: Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Jordan supported the royalists, whereas Egypt and the Soviet Union and other communist-bloc states supported the republicans. Britain and the United States, as well as the United Nations, also eventually became major players, even if only at the diplomatic level. By the late 1960s, however, the Yemenis decided that the only logical outcome of the conflict was a compromise, which would have as its most important side effect the departure of the various foreign forces. Accordingly, with the blessing of the two major foreign participants -- Egypt and Saudi Arabia -- the northern Yemenis agreed upon the Compromise of 1970, which established a republican government in which some major positions were assigned to members of the royalist faction. It was, nevertheless, agreed that the imam and his family were not to play any role whatsoever in the new state; accordingly, the imam went into exile in Britain.


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In 1962 a military coup overthrew the royalist government in Yemen. Nasser intervened to support the new republican government against the Saudi-backed royalists, who were attempting to regain control. This undertaking proved to be a great drain on Egypt's financial and military resources. At the height of its involvement, Egypt had 75,000 troops in Yemen. Egypt's intervention also increased inter-Arab tensions, especially between Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Egypt's defeat at the hands of Israel in the June 1967 War obliged it to withdraw its forces from Yemen and to seek peace. A settlement was achieved at a conference in Khartoum in 1967.

John Hancock

sphinx wui

Most of the historical events you mention in your first two posts which I view as attempts to utilize a discussion board as a bloger site. Can be found in the fifth chapter of this Dossier of a self admitted intent. This is not the article to which I referred. I was mistaken in thinking I'd save it. That article drew alot of same historical references that you made.

In searching for the web for it, I've found quite a few sources that one could utilize to supply the references that you employed. Some of those sites are very bias other's a Historian's Dream. When I write of historical jumping off points those are specific points of reference to expand in a more dissertative manner; anyway it's a personal expresstion for why I save different articles that mention events.

In light of having discovered the ready availability of this information I'm willing to concede that it unlikely that you were quoting from the article I'd recalled reading.

I've not seen you post in any other threads and wonder why all the streaming of Colonial History? Particularly since you offer no links o references. Incidently when the moneylenders ect. pitched JC's big brother Joe off the temple mound and Paul and all ran up to Roman real christianity ceased to exist with the concept of divine rights of rule. This is roughly what (in my opinion) occured in 1744 with the house of Saud and Islam. Remember I'm an infidel.

Martin Buber

Danya

Thanks for your post. I find it interesting...it isn't the kind of thing they teach in history class here in America. Since Bush has seen fit to give America it's own Middle Eastern country and appears to be looking to get himself another one I am curious about the region, it's nations, it's relationship with it's neighbors, etc.

So far I've only educated myself on the ones we bomb so it's nice to get a bigger picture and to do so under better circumstances. Martin may already be aware of the things you've discussed but I still have a lot to learn.

sphinx wui

Martin wrote;

I've not seen you post in any other threads and wonder why all the streaming of Colonial History?


I registered in this forum less than one month ago and my first post was in the Palestinian/ Israeli thread and you can check it from page two to see by yourself and when the discussions over there turned into what it looks like FBI investigations and forensic dialogue I stopped posting. I also have posts in the GRD in a thread about the difference between Suni and Shia Islam and in a thread about death and my last post was yesterday in a thread about Saturday Christian morning cartoons.

About the streaming of colonial history! Every body has the right to have his own interests and I am a big fan of history and you can�t ask people why you speak about this matter or that issue! It sounds strange to me, isn�t it?

Mostly I share in the threads concerning Islam, Middle East, Arabs�. etc and I think the reason is obvious but don�t expect me to post in a thread about Bush tax cut plan!!! It is none of my business.

I think this misunderstanding happened cause you thought that to get such information, one has to take it from another site or has to have PhD in history and politics! Most people in the Middle East speak about politics as Americans speak about the best restaurants in town and their pension planes 401 K something! It is everywhere like air and water and if you are interested you will drown in it, as it is the case with me. I didn�t check any source other than the Arabic book �years of boiling� to translate the letter and the rest of it I am living in it everyday then I smoked nice marijuana joint with my schizophrenic friend retried army general/ Musa who lives with his wife in the apartment above mine (and keep asking me to hook him up with one of my girl friends although he is 68 years old!!) and never miss a chance to inform me about his political opinions and his connections with world leaders or his phone calls with them while drinking all the beer in the refrigerator. Last call was with Chirac of France to discuss EU policies with him after he hanged up the phone in the face of GWB! But his intimate buddies were Clinton and Monica!! And instead of jumping from the balcony I started to write this post while jumping off points.

When I was in America, many people asked me if I have any degree in History or political sciences? The last year I studied history in school was junior high school and after it history has nothing to do with my college or future career but as you say it in America, it is a second nature!

You already derailed and ruined my thread but the thing that bothers me and for sure my friend retarded retired army general/ Musa (who, by the way, wants to get your phone number!) is the fact that you put your first answer to my post after only 17 minutes (check the time), you read my long post and caught me red handed and wrote your post in 17 minutes!!!! Next time give your self a chance to think for a while.

About documentation, I started to check some sites after your accusations and I got some nice stuff and I will post them later. I used the word documentary in a sarcastic way and I didn�t intend to give anybody lectures in history, it was about how I view things in a psychedelic moment. I kept hearing in America all this stuff about why they hate us cause of our freedom and style of life blah blah blah but no body ever dared to go deep and search for the real reasons and the fatal mistakes that America did in the past and this was the aim of my post. I think most of the people hear in this forum never heard of Yemen war and the role that America played during it.

About the link you put, I tried to open it but I couldn�t, my computer is stick shift not automatic! I downloaded the files but when I opened it, the computer gave me a message that it is a long file and can�t open it and when I tried again it freezed and I had to reset it again, if you notice that I don�t use the �quote� option in this forum but I do copy paste cause with certain icons like quote and profile the computer freezes and the same thing happens when I try to open any link so I do copy paste and I put it in the address bar and it works most of the time.if you can send me the important parts in pm I will appreciate it.


Martin wrote,

�..attempts to utilize a discussion board as a bloger site.

Listen, I have 2300 page dictionary and I tried to find this �bloger� but I failed, I guess it means �propaganda� if this is the case I have enough conspiracy theories from my friend retarded retired army general/ Musa so please give me a break.

Please if you have any comment about the �CONTENT� of the post you are welcome, otherwise, allow it to die in peace after you stabed it.

p.s. I have a real problem in my life with old people (over 45), my father can�t withstand me for 2min. and 37 seconds (neither I). They suffer from brain calcifications with a lot of false fixed believes. If any body here in this category, don�t share in my posts please, we will never agree.

Omar

John Hancock

sphinx wui

Welcome this is a brief message (I get on and off the system as time allows) and find the concept of communicating with a person with your knowledge and different perspective. In particular the split Twix the Shia and Sunni. Sorry if I misspell a lot in this post. Arab history is a totally new area for me. I've been more into a study of wealth and it's transgression within my own nation.

I am well aware of the colonial folly that has been by United States foreign policy. Few US citizens have bothered enough to learn the history of their own nation, to not be complacently pliable to media generated manipulation. (I may be starting a thread on a view that just struck me this morning). Here is a list of recent LIST fuck ups (recent to me extents back to 19th century).

Bloger (and tha is probably misspelled) is a internet term for web publishing and I understand that there are sites for that express purpose.

The document I linked you to is an acrobat file to read it one must have downloaded the adobe program from here http://www.adobe.com/support/main.html the nontext only file has a photo option in it that requires the ownership of Photoshop but you can get all other options without it so you might want to at least try for the more complete (uncheck photo option). IT'S FREE!

The site that puts out that is big on the formation of a Khilafah (?) formation and is called 1924.org. I've not had to compare the history in that document with what's available on other's. For obvious reasons for me it'll prove laborious.

Gotta go be industious.

Martin

PS. Document apears to be utilized as reefer for rope into bit set norgate don't know if uses it beyond 2nd search engine reference cause I don't let cookies that haven't been specifically allowed on to my computer.

Gurdur

Just interested in translating this:

Do you mean you cannot stand yourself for longer than "2min and 37seconds" ?
And all people over 45 suffer from "brain calcifications " ?

And you only want posts from people who agree with you ?

Just wondering, idlely.

sphinx wui

Gurur wrote

Do you mean you cannot stand yourself for longer than "2min and 37seconds" ?

how many languages you speak??? at least i have the gut to post in a foreign language!!

And all people over 45 suffer from "brain calcifications " ?

most of them, you need to read some pathology,regularly people after forty finish the job that mother nature wants them to do and they start to be pain in the ass!!

And you only want posts from people who agree with you ?

no, i want somebody to discuss the content of my post not the spelling and not saying rubbish and vanish!!!!!

Gurdur

Four, and one more badly. So do I. Often.

I've actually studied a bit of brain pathology at uni.
There is no evidence for your claim, and much against it.
You are confusing your prejudices with pathology.


I am.

Have you ever thought of adopting a less prejudiced stance ?
Might help you in discussions.