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Old 02-10-2003, 10:43 AM   #61
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After reading this thread and the corresponding offensive/non-offensive thread (aimee post) I pulled out my bright, shiny pad of yellow post-it's and made the following notes to self:

#1 - Never, ever, ever, ever say anything nice about anyone, theist or atheist.

#2 - Look up every word in livius drusus posts. (sub-note: Look up what language she is using, english? maybe)

#3 - Avoid stating personal opinions at all times. Keep all thoughts to self!

#4 - Avoid overuse of the little smiley thingies...damn they can get annoying

#5 - Call Rodney King and give him the answer...."No we cannot all just get along!!"

#6 - Buy flame retardant underwear, for future flames that will undoubtably spew your way

#6a - Yes, scooby doo underoo's are acceptable

erm...that's all...carry on
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ROFL vicesboy, that was so funny. The funniest part is that most of it is true!
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Old 02-10-2003, 02:38 PM   #63
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Wow this sucker grew...

I logged in for a moment to check up on devolpments in this thread, and I'm logging out now to do... well... some other things. But I'll be back.

One quick comment about the "lack of examples" someone mentioned... either you recognize the kind of behaviour I was talking about in the o.p. when you encounter it, or you don't and thus obviously hold the opinion it doesn't ever happen around here.

Oh and Gurdur, I didn't start this thread in pursuit of justification of my actions (whatever those might be), but in the hope to perhaps raise a bit of awareness. In an environment such as IIDB, where the agreement (silent or outspoken) from an overwhelming majority is ever present, it's easy to let ones grip on selfcritisism slip.

For as far as my parody of your occasional knack for boldprint-antagonistic, smilie infested, disagreement goes; I don't mind if someone points out that I'm no saint, and I hope the same goes for you. (I did put special effort in digging up some extra silly smilies ).
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One quick comment about the "lack of examples" someone mentioned... either you recognize the kind of behaviour I was talking about in the o.p. when you encounter it, or you don't and thus obviously hold the opinion it doesn't ever happen around here.
Or you haven't encountered it, because you don't read that widely around here, but you're open to being shown it.

Or you can think of something that the writer of the OP might be referring to, but you're not sure because his interpretation might be an oversimplification or inaccurate.

And you want a specific example, preferably a few if the behavior's so commonplace, because misguided consciousness-raising is such a waste of time, as is a group of people speaking philosophically at total cross-purposes.
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Old 02-11-2003, 12:54 AM   #65
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Here's my list ~

#1 - Never, ever, ever, ever, try to win friends and influence people by being inane in a public forum. Let sweet friendship and bitter rivalry develop naturally in the course of random topics.

#2 - Look up livius drusus' skirt (sub-note: she shor do have a purty mouth)

#3 - State your opinions with vigor and always expect some knobs to take offense, especially on the internet. Do NOT stomp your feet and cover your ears!

#4 - Only use topnotch smilies ~

#5 - Always keep in mind that we will all disagree on some point or issue, vive le difference! Let's just try to avoid arguing over how to argue...is that ok or not?

#6 - Fire is good, fire is our friend.

#6a - Yes, scooby doo underoo's are acceptable.
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Old 02-11-2003, 02:06 AM   #66
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In an environment such as IIDB, where the agreement (silent or outspoken) from an overwhelming majority is ever present, it's easy to let ones grip on selfcritisism slip.
For what it's worth, Marcel ~ I once took this very fallacious position not all that long ago.

The position takes a life of its own where you begin to 'see' an enemy in only the simple and honest act of articulated dissent.

Almost undetected, their literal explanations fade quickly, in favor of 'the lesson'.

A storm is brewing and it is not one caused by Borg-like conformity ~ for many here will always disagree on an assortment of topics to include whether one particular person was rude to another in a given scenario under certain circumstances.

That said, any generalized pattern you may perceive, despite the assorted threads that are taking place in contrast, does not make for a conspiracy that would motivate anyone to make any further effort to self-critique.

Eventually, the storm that comes engenders the standard contempt that comes with feeling unduly persecuted...and the constant voice drones on, telling you that you must 'teach them all an important lesson' that, somehow, only you seem gifted enough to know.

There is no end to that type of overly detailed intellectual analysis...no lesson to be learned...just beautiful friendships to be lost.

~ Steve
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For what it's worth, Marcel ~ I once took this very fallacious position not all that long ago.

The position takes a life of its own where you begin to 'see' an enemy in only the simple and honest act of articulated dissent.

Almost undetected, their literal explanations fade quickly, in favor of 'the lesson'.

A storm is brewing and it is not one caused by Borg-like conformity ~ for many here will always disagree on an assortment of topics to include whether one particular person was rude to another in a given scenario under certain circumstances.

That said, any generalized pattern you may perceive, despite the assorted threads that are taking place in contrast, does not make for a conspiracy that would motivate anyone to make any further effort to self-critique.

Eventually, the storm that comes engenders the standard contempt that comes with feeling unduly persecuted...and the constant voice drones on, telling you that you must 'teach them all an important lesson' that, somehow, only you seem gifted enough to know.

There is no end to that type of overly detailed intellectual analysis...no lesson to be learned...just beautiful friendships to be lost.

~ Steve
and those frienships are lost as one persists in denying that the follower of an opposite ideology can contribute to the betterment of mankind.
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Old 02-11-2003, 07:59 AM   #68
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There is no end to that type of overly detailed intellectual analysis...no lesson to be learned...just beautiful friendships to be lost.
Indeed. Great post, Ronin! (All of it, even though I just quoted only the end)

(In my subjective opinion, I mean )

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and those frienships are lost as one persists in denying that the follower of an opposite ideology can contribute to the betterment of mankind.
I don't recall seeing much of that here, to be fair. Based on what I can recall, most people deny that the ideology can contribute to the betterment of mankind rather than that its followers can. For one thing, even if an ideology sucks, people who claim to follow it generally follow some variant of it adapted to their own personality and preferences. So whether they contribute to the betterment of mankind has a lot to do with them and only a certain amount to do with their ideology.

I guess it may also depend how you define 'the betterment of mankind'

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Old 02-11-2003, 08:21 AM   #70
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Ronin...very nice list and I love the cool smiley-blown up-by-spaceship, outstanding!!!

Anyway, I am changing my mind and my list, which as you all know, IS the right given to me by every divine being in belief today, further ratified by every government type and protected by every non-religious, non-political, fetish freak in existance and that has ever been in existance.

So as I sit here typing this, in my scooby underoo's, my list now looks exactly like ronins!!
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