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Got it to work--stupid computer internet speed.
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KNM-ER 1470 is skull F in the picture below. It has a cranial capacity of For comparison, there’s two Australopithecines there too. They’re skulls B and C (STS 5, ‘Mrs Ples’, dated to 2.6my, and with a cranial capacity of 485cc, and STS 71, dated to 2.5my, and with a cranial capacity of 428cc. Those skulls -- except first and last, which are modern -- are in chronological order. So please define ‘more modern’! Quote:
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On that last matter, it seems that the list under discussion was lifted wholesale from this page, typo mistakes (“Homo Erects”) and all. Hmmm. Quote:
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Oolon, I think that there are a few corrections for your otherwise good post on the hominid fossils. The fossil "A" is also an Australopithecus afarensis, "B" is A. africanus. "C" could also be A. africanus. One could have the impression that the afarensis skull was not Australopithicus from your text. The cranial capasity of KNM-ER 1470 is ~750 cc. This TalkOrigins page, Creationist arguments: Homo habilus , addresses the Leakey quote. You are quite correct that the quote was obsolete, and taken out of context. Oh, and the KNM-ER 1470 fossil was discovered by Bernard Ngeneo, not Leakey. Oh, the creationists cannot spell Leakey either. |
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Here is the actual legend to the picture. Note that A is a modern Chimp not A. afarensis. (A) Pan troglodytes, chimpanzee, modern (B) Australopithecus africanus, STS 5, 2.6 My (C) Australopithecus africanus, STS 71, 2.5 My (D) Homo habilis, KNM-ER 1813, 1.9 My (E) Homo habilis, OH24, 1.8 My (F) Homo rudolfensis, KNM-ER 1470, 1.8 My (G) Homo erectus, Dmanisi cranium D2700, 1.75 My (H) Homo ergaster (early H. erectus), KNM-ER 3733, 1.75 My (I) Homo heidelbergensis, "Rhodesia man," 300,000 - 125,000 y (J) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Ferrassie 1, 70,000 y (K) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Chappelle-aux-Saints, 60,000 y (L) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Le Moustier, 45,000 y (M) Homo sapiens sapiens, Cro-Magnon I, 30,000 y (N) Homo sapiens sapiens, modern |
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Opps.
I must check my eyes. Thanks.
Contrast this A. afarensis For some reason, I recalled that afarensis has a post orbital suculus. Oh Well! |
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I'll check what Klein has to say about the dating methods of it too... if I ever go home tonight (now 5.30pm, still in the office...) Cheers, Oolon |
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