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Old 05-17-2002, 09:06 AM   #41
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But HE created the OLD LAWS. Jesus is the same God of the OT, he isn’t a new one, separate or different from that God – even if Christianity does their best to create Jesus into a new and improved deity. Being an all powerful, all knowing, perfect God – why would he need to abolish the laws HE created, knew the outcome of and yet still instituted?? Jesus came to affirm the OLD LAWS, not change them but rather to set the people straight who weren’t following them as they should be. He didn’t come for the gentile, you goyim. He was a Jew, come to save the Jewish nation from peril. Judaism does not have a concept of Hell at that time or any other. All the NT stuff is extraneous bullshit drummed up decades and centuries after this false Jewish prophet died, thereby negating ANY possibility that he was the JEWISH MESSIAH!

Why did He need to forgive David when he predestined David to commit whatever actions He knew He would find wrong? And so what? What relevance does this alleged act of forgiveness have to do with his divinity?

Before you can understand the NT you really should study the OT and I would suggest you study it from a Judaic perspective so you can properly understand it.

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<strong><a href="http://www.frugalsites.net/jesus/physician.html" target="_blank">http://www.frugalsites.net/jesus/physician.html</a>
I actually found this while surfing the net, searching for articles about Jesus and this almost made me cry. Here is the text:

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Look what it says at the end of that site, Fastfalcon

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From New Wine Magazine, April 1982. Used with permission.
Did you have permission to cut and paste the whole thing here???

I doubt it.So much for your honor *sigh*

Where are the mods? They used to erase stuff that was cut and pasted without permission...

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Old 05-17-2002, 09:13 AM   #43
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FF: "He had to abolish the old laws (the ones that orthodox Jews still cling to) in order to set us free, because the law just condemns."

I assume you think the Gospels are reasonably accurate portrayals of Jesus and his teachings. I wonder what the Jesus represented in Matt 5:17-20 would have thought of your Pauline theology.
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FF,
Yer a goin straight ta hell for talking to us heathens!
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Old 05-17-2002, 09:15 AM   #45
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Oh no!! Or: this report was made in 1982. maybe this permission was from the original author (I guess the doctor was the author.)
I always mess up on that verse. We ain't perfect, ya know

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<strong>yeah, more like an atheist-hating, Jew-hating, communist-hating old painter that managed to come to power only because the Depression gave him a chance.</strong>
Psssssttt! FF, over here!
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The "Depression" occured in and affected the economy
of the United States.

Hitler became Chancellor of Germany. That's
like, this whole other country over in Europe.

Hope you don't have a History final approaching...
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Yea, but the Depression also affected the rest of the world, and hit Germany hardest. After WWI, Germany was made to pay reparations to France and other nations. In the 1920s the US gave Germany money to jumpstart its economy so it could pay the reparations and its bills. when the Crash occurred, the U.S. had to recall all the money it gave to Germany and other nations, so Germany's economy crashed as well. The rest is history.
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If you're hearing voices while on the toilet, you might be straining too hard. Eat more fiber before you have an aneurism or get hemoroids. </strong>
If only that was the case! I haven`t had to strain on the toilet in months due to the side effects of my headache medication.

All the time I used to spend straining is now used to clean up the mess. I`ve said too much........
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You do know why Elvis died on the toilet, don't you?

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Elvis didn't really die, you know. There are at least 500 eyewitnesses. Oh shit, that's Jesus. Never mind....
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