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Ojuice5001 · 05-25-2003, 11:07 AM

Well, at 1AM last night I discovered that SecularFuture once created an account on Christian Forums, and has been banned. (I saw his name because today's his birthday.) Let me tell you, if his posts on CF were anything like his posts here, I'm unsurprised and glad that he was banned. SecularFuture's posts here make him look like an anti-theistic fanatic. It seems that his intent on this board is to get his fellow atheists to oppose theism as virulently as he does.

I know that I've caught flak because I'm trying to convert the Christians to paganism; some think that's religiously intolerant, but SecularFuture makes me look like the ORTC . For one thing, my style of posting doesn't rely on intellectual epithets and belittlement of Christians' thinking skills. And he wants to get rid of religion and theism entirely. Whereas I don't make it my goal to make everyone in the world a Roman pagan; hell, I'd be satisfied if there were 100 million of us.

I don't dislike you Christians. Really, I think we're just rivals, not enemies at all.

Arikay · 05-25-2003, 12:56 PM

A random question,

Does Inspired, from CF, post here under a different name, or has she not posted anything in awhile?

seebs · 05-25-2003, 06:50 PM

Haven't seen anything from her in a while; I think being essentially cast out probably hurt her a bit. I have exchanged PM's with her once since then. Hope she's doing okay.

Some day, there will be an entry about that whole thing in my blog, but it will be a while. (Yes, this is a transparent attempt to interest people in my blog:
http://www.seebs.net/log/)

faithful slave pedro · 05-25-2003, 07:19 PM

Cool seebs. Where did you get that software, or did you just make the page from scratch yourself?

seebs · 05-25-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by faithful slave pedro
Cool seebs. Where did you get that software, or did you just make the page from scratch yourself?

Movable Type is a free package. I originally used Greymatter, but MT looked more interesting. Both are free downloads, in perl. I have tweaked MT a little bit, mostly at the level of tweaking the templates so it doesn't look as painfully, idiotically, stupid; the default template uses 200% line height.

It looks absolutely horrible, as though the designer

had no idea how to format text, and were simply

using the feature because it was there. Or maybe he

thinks blog writers should be like college students

and pad everything out by double-spacing. Or

is it to give readers space to comment?

In any event, I fixed it. My remaining complaint is that I need to use one of my insecure browsers to do page updates, because some of the magic in the backend depends on JavaScript support. EWW!

seebs · 05-26-2003, 01:05 AM

Nelzador posted this, and I thought it was funny, but I suspect it'll get deleted:

Quote:

Yesterday at 06:26 AM look said this in Post #167
I started this thread to show you how awesome God is and what He can do. This former homosexual has found God and God has set him free! God can do this for anybody who will open his or her heart to Him as the Lord of mercy.

Instead of acknowledging that this man has found the One True God, you berate and belittle him. You have hijacked this thread to oppose God and His mercy. You scoffers and skeptics, you are more stiff-necked than the generation of Sodom and Gomorrah! Most of you are stiff-necked from self-imposed ignorance but some of you oppose God because you know He is real and hold Him up to ridicule and scorn. Some of you have let satan enter your heart and fill you up with hatred for all that God is.

It is plain to see that this guy has found true freedom and God brought him out of homosexuality and God has also changed his very nature. This guy now can love in the truest sense of the word. Imagine that! A former homosexual can now love like Jesus loves! This is true love, not the corrupted thing that he thought was love. This guy is now MY BROTHER in Jesus!!!

Now, I would strongly suggest that all of you wicked and hateful sinners (that�s right, sinners deliberately flaunting yourselves against God and His ways!) Consider this, if you continue in your ways, you will find yourselves facing the terrible wrath of God in the next five years, with no hope of any mercy. I dare say that some of you will continue in your hateful ways and cause a few lovely born-again children of God to be killed because you cannot stand them. This is of course still in the future and who knows? You might open your hearts to God and ask for mercy before hand.

So much for your preaching �The homosexual is born that way or the homosexual can�t change who he is�. Your true colors came out and you ran out gnashing your teeth on this guy, who Jesus helped triumph over sin.

The truth is, �THE POWER OF GOD CAN SET YOU FREE FROM SIN. YOU DON�T HAVE TO REMAIN ENSLAVED TO SIN!� And Satan hates it because that person is going to be a big mouth and show others how to love, through Jesus� work at the cross. Satan�s dreams and plans for that guy is ruined! Praise God, another captive set free!!!

Thanks outspoken and badfish for carrying on the fight for me, I thought this thread would be ignored as soon as they saw my name, but I was wrong!!! I appreciate it guys, I love you guys!

Okay, I got bored reading your post, so I thought one way to make it better, would be to translate it into AOL speak or rather the English-to-12-year-old-Translator. Here's what I got:

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From the AOL Translator

I STARTED THIS THREAD 2 SHOW U HOW AEWSOM3 GOD IS AND WUT HE CAN DO11!1!1!1 THIS FORM3R HOMOSEXUAL HAS FOUND GOD AND GOD HAS SET HIM FRE!!!!1!!! OMG LOL GOD CAN DO THIS FOR ANYBODY WHO WIL OP3N HIS OR H3R HAART 2 HIM AS TEH LORD OF M3RCY!1!1 OMG

INSTEAD OF AKNOWLADGNG TAHT THIS MAN HAS FOUND DA ON3 TRUE GOD U BRAET AND BLITLE HIM11!!! LOL U HAEV HIJAK3D THIS THRAAD 2 OPOSE GOD AND HIS MERCY11!1 OMG LOL U SCOF3RS AND SK3PTICS U R MORE STIF-NEKAD THAN TEH GENERATION OF SODOM AND GOMORAH11!!!!! MOST OF U R STIF-N3KED FROM S3LF-IMPOS3D IGNORANCE BUT SOME OF U OPOS3 GOD B/C U KNOW H3 IS REAL AND HOLD HIM UP 2 RIDICULA AND SCORN!!1!!1 OMG LOL SOMA OF U HAEV LET SATAN ANTER UR HAART AND FIL U UP WIT HATRED FOR AL TAHT GOD IS1!!11!1

IT IS PLANE 2 SE TAHT THIS GUY HAS FOUND TRU3 FREDOM AND GOD BROUGHT HIM OUT OF HOMOS3XUALITY AND GOD HAS ALSO CHANG3D HIS VERY NATURA11!11 OMG LOL THIS GUY NOW CAN LOVE IN TEH TRUAST SENS3 OF TEH WORD!!!1! IMAGIEN TAHT11!!111! OMG LOL A FORMER HOMOSEXUAL CAN NOW LOVE LIEK JASUS LOV3S1!111 OMG THIS IS TRUE LOVA NOT DA CORUPT3D THNG TAHT H3 THOUGHT WAS LOVE1!11 OMG LOL THIS GUY IS NOW MAH BROTHER[/B] IN JESUS!1!!1!1!1!111!!!!!1111 LOL

NOW I WUD STRONGLY SUG3ST TAHT AL OF U WIKED AND HAETFUL SINERS (TAHT�S RIGHT SINERS DELIEBRAETLY FLAUNTNG UR AGANEST GOD AND HIS WAYS)1!11 LOL CONSIEDR THIS IF U CONTINU3 IN UR WAYS U WIL FIND UR FACNG TEH TERIBLE WRATH OF GOD IN TEH NEXT FIEV YEARS WIT NO HOPA OF ANY M3RCY11!1 OMG I R SAY TAHT SOMA OF U WIL CONTINUE IN UR HAETFUL WAYS AND CAUSE A F3W LOVELY BORN-AGANE CHILDR3N OF GOD 2 B KILAD B/C U CANOT STAND THAM11!11 THIS IS OF COURSA STIL IN TEH FUTUR3 AND WHO KNOWS?!!?!?? OMG LOL U MIGHT OP3N UR H3ARTS 2 GOD AND ASK FOR MERCY BFOR3 HAND111!!1!1

SO MUCH FOR UR PR3ACHNG DA HOMOSAXUAL IS BORN TAHT WAY OR DA HOMOS3XUAL CAN�T CHANGA WHO HE IS�!11!!!! OMG LOL UR TRUE COLORS CMA OUT AND U RAN OUT GNASHNG UR TETH ON THIS GUY WHO J3SUS HELPAD TRIUMPH OV3R SIN!1!111!! OMG DA TRUTH IS DA POWAR OF GOD CAN S3T U FRE FROM SIN1!11!1!1 OMG LOL U DON�T HAEV 2 REMANE ANSLAEVD 2 SIN�[/B]11!!!11! OMG LOL AND SATAN HAETS IT B/C TAHT PERSON IS GONG 2 B A BIG MOUTH AND SHOW OTHERS HOW 2 LOVE THROUGH J3SUS� WORK AT TEH CROS!1!!1 LOL SATAN�S DRAMS AND PLANS FOR TAHT GUY IS RUIEND!1111!!1 OMG LOL PRASEE GOD ANOTHER CAPTIEV S3T FRE!1!111!!11!111!111 OMG LOL THX OUTSPOKEN AND BADFISH FOR CARYNG ON DA FIGHT FOR ME I THOUGHT THIS THR3AD WUD B IGNORAD AS SON AS THEY SAW MAH NME BUT I WAS WRONG!1!111!!!1!11!!!!1111 OMG LOL I APR3CIAET IT GUYS I LOVE U GUYSO!!111!

There. Now you're post is interesting, look. Also a very good case study for the degrading standards of the way young people write. I think we have all learned a valuable thing here people. Satan is corrupting our youth to write badly...

I await the Flash powered website of the new "born-again" Champion of the written word.

NARF!

Smilin · 05-26-2003, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by TearFromTheInnerSoul
anyways.. then the stuff with the "men are pigs" thread.. I was only stating my opinion.. that's what they asked for.. soooooo, apparently i'm not suppose to have any sort of oppinion, becasue i am a bisexual atheist scum!

man.. I miss all the fun...

wish I had been there! lol... I admit what I am..

To counter you Tears.. I would have started a thread:

Quit yer Bitchin and get your ass back to the Kitchen...

I doubt anyone would have found humor in that...

But... we know the drill...

Never let them see you frown!
Stand your ground!

Smilin · 05-26-2003, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Karyn
even better - a reality show! One I might actually watch, even.

One I'd DEFINATELY apply for as well!

Actually, I'd love a reality show with one camp from 'The Jesus Club'... and one camp from 'Everyone else going to Hell'.

THAT would make great comedy!

Smilin · 05-26-2003, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by seebs
Jaybyrd! Cool to see you.

The JESUS CLUB is what you beat people with when they don't agree with you, and you've got no other arguments left, so you just have to go after 'em with something they can't argue with.

Thanks seebs for the inspiration of my next animation creation!
lol

Smilin · 05-26-2003, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ojuice5001

I don't dislike you Christians. Really, I think we're just rivals, not enemies at all.

Oj,
Do your homework first please.

Most contributors to this 'Mother of All Threads' are outcasts from mainstream Christian thinkers from that site 'that must not be mentioned' (Harry Potter quote). Speeking for everyone, we come from very diverse backgrounds with very diverse beliefs. Something the moral majority can't understand or even dare tolerate.

As far as converting anyone here in this particular thread, I doubt your efforts will be successful. The thought that we need 'converting' insenuates we are unable to think, evaluate, and decide for ourselves what is best for our own personal lives.

However, you are welcome to knock on my front door. (grin) I always welcome those who first make the effort for the long hike back to my residence, simply to 'convert' me since I'm not capable of thinking, rationalizing, and exploring for myself.

And brace yourself,,, lol... I love a mental battle of 'quick pro quo' over drinks.. (non-alcoholic for me,,, but whatever your pleasure.)

~Regards Smilin...

p.s.... to my voyeur friend Blackhawk... my invitation still stands..
Care to debate here? You pick the topic... ANY topic, you set the rules... You consider yourself a 'deep thinker'. Personally, I'm biting at the chomps here to engage you in a debate of your choosing.

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05-25-2003, 11:07 AM	#1171
Ojuice5001 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A city in Florida that I love Posts: 3,416	Well, at 1AM last night I discovered that SecularFuture once created an account on Christian Forums, and has been banned. (I saw his name because today's his birthday.) Let me tell you, if his posts on CF were anything like his posts here, I'm unsurprised and glad that he was banned. SecularFuture's posts here make him look like an anti-theistic fanatic. It seems that his intent on this board is to get his fellow atheists to oppose theism as virulently as he does. I know that I've caught flak because I'm trying to convert the Christians to paganism; some think that's religiously intolerant, but SecularFuture makes me look like the ORTC . For one thing, my style of posting doesn't rely on intellectual epithets and belittlement of Christians' thinking skills. And he wants to get rid of religion and theism entirely. Whereas I don't make it my goal to make everyone in the world a Roman pagan; hell, I'd be satisfied if there were 100 million of us. I don't dislike you Christians. Really, I think we're just rivals, not enemies at all.

05-25-2003, 12:56 PM	#1172
Arikay Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ca, Usa Posts: 262	A random question, Does Inspired, from CF, post here under a different name, or has she not posted anything in awhile?

05-25-2003, 06:50 PM	#1173
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	Haven't seen anything from her in a while; I think being essentially cast out probably hurt her a bit. I have exchanged PM's with her once since then. Hope she's doing okay. Some day, there will be an entry about that whole thing in my blog, but it will be a while. (Yes, this is a transparent attempt to interest people in my blog: http://www.seebs.net/log/)

05-25-2003, 07:19 PM	#1174
faithful slave pedro Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: US Posts: 89	Cool seebs. Where did you get that software, or did you just make the page from scratch yourself?

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