viscousmemories

Some people become politicians to "change things from within" and other people blow shit up. I don't do either because I don't really believe in the effectiveness of either, but I fully understand why both approaches find so many supporters.

IMO, while COAS's confrontation may not have effected any profound change in the girl, her family, the Girl Scouts or society as a whole, I see absolutely nothing wrong with her "exercising (her) "right" to assert to a child (her) opinion on the organization he or she represents".

That's the beauty of having personal freedom. You don't have to have a reason for exercising it.

2tadpoles

I have looked into Campfire kids, and was dismayed to find that many of the more "conservative" states have no Campfire troops. I also tried to contact the nearest council to find out more, and nobody responded (twice).

There is also an organization called Spiral Scouts. Although it was developed by the pagan community, it doesn't discriminate and doesn't indoctrinate. Here's the website if anyone's interested: http://www.spiralscouts.org/index.php

4-H is another non-discriminatory organization that's good for kids. http://www.4-h.org/info/

Frogsmoocher

Mageth

IMO, while COAS's confrontation may not have effected any profound change in the girl, her family, the Girl Scouts or society as a whole, I see absolutely nothing wrong with her "exercising (her) "right" to assert to a child (her) opinion on the organization he or she represents".

I agree she has the right and can exercise it if she so chooses, and never said otherwise. Whether it's right or wrong for her to exercise the right is a different question, and one she (and each of us) has to decide for herself. Whether you or I think it's right or wrong is a side issue, and one we're thankfully free to discuss!

That's the beauty of having personal freedom. You don't have to have a reason for exercising it.

The primary discussion on this thread has been, not whether it's anyone's right, but whether one should. As I said, and as you indicate, that's a personal choice for each of us. But we're free to discuss it. And part of what I've been discussing is that "reason" should be considered in conjunction with "should I?"

I would hope that one would at least consider the reasons for exercising one's rights, and the potential effects of such an exercise on others, rather than exercising them without reason. I think COAS and others have shown in this thread that they have done that, and thus I wouldn't characterise her act as "reasonless".

Personal freedom without reason and consideration of "should I?" is anarchy, is it not?

Invader Tak

We interrupt your regularly scheduled thread:

Day is done, gone the sun,
From the lake, from the hills, from the sky.
All is well, safely rest, God is nigh.

I can still hear it <sniff>.