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Old 02-04-2003, 05:24 AM   #11
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Default Re: Do half-lifes prove existance of God?

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hey, i hope someone can answer this quickly for me. Im debating the existance of god/gods with someone and they used as their central argument that all matter has a half life which means all matter is not eternal which means God must have created it.

Well, same here, my chrisitan friends always like to claim that since photons are field carriers and all forces(electromagnetic, gravitational,etc) are essentially the same, science has actually proved that the bible is right and God created the world(because of the bible's verse in the first chapter " Let there be light").

And now this, which makes me wonder whether most christians think the same way about science and religion?



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Old 02-08-2003, 07:44 PM   #12
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the logic as how could God create light on the first day
and the light source;the Sun on the fourth day,
obviously doesn't bother them.

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Old 02-11-2003, 01:18 PM   #13
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To follow up on what echidna posted, this is a classic creationist argument used in any number of situations. It goes like this:

1) God exists
2) Arbitrary event / situation / theory
3) Wierd logic / misinformation / leap of faith
4) Therefore God exists

Usually, they start talking at #2, but #1 is always implied in whatever they say, so there is no way for them to get anywhere except for #4. That being the case, explaining to them that #3 does not lead to #4 is generally an excercise in futility.

Creationists are desperate to find some sort of proof to back up what they believe and are willing to go through any kind of mental gymnastics necessary to do so. Applying reason and logic to their arguments doesn't work because they're not based on anything of the sort. If you want success, make up some wierd argument with nothing to support it and invent some "logic" to prove that that argument leads to the irrefutable conclusion that God doesn't exist. They seem to like those arguments and may buy it.
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Old 02-13-2003, 07:53 AM   #14
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When something decays it doesn't vanish. Potassium 40, used in one form of radiometric dating, is the "parent" of Argon 40, for example.
One might even say it evolves!
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