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Luiseach · 05-26-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Friar Bellows
Yes, I've often wondered this. Why do so many people think that the loudest are the smartest? This tends to inflate the already inflated opinion that most of the dominant types have of themselves. Which makes other people even more impressed. Some advice, though: don't allow yourself to get pissed off by a dominant type more than once. After that, just try and ignore/avoid them as best you can. Of course it's not easy to do that given that society rewards these proto-psychopaths on a regular basis by supporting their rise to power.

A very insightful post...and some good advice, too.

wildernesse · 05-26-2003, 09:29 PM

Maybe because it is nearly impossible to get a word in edgewise? I know someone who really only carries on what could be called conversation through email--otherwise, it is a monologue that can seriously last for hours.

What's more irritating is that the moment you butt in and say something that is related, it is like they shut down and go "mmhmm.". This drives me insane (partially because I want to talk too, and at length as well!).

--tibac

meritocrat · 05-26-2003, 10:30 PM

I actually respect a person who possess opinions on many subjects. At least it denotes they keep abreast of life and like to stimulate themselves intellectually.

Though I do agree that self-righteous people are annoying.

Opera Nut · 05-26-2003, 10:50 PM

Between dick-waving contests between wanna-be alpha males of CHIMP WORLD, and overbearing self righteous Christians, the rest of us can't get much of a word in!!

The only way I know to deal with both groups is to WALK OFF.

wildernesse · 05-27-2003, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by meritocrat
I actually respect a person who possess opinions on many subjects. At least it denotes they keep abreast of life and like to stimulate themselves intellectually.

Though I do agree that self-righteous people are annoying.

Yes, I think it is good that people have opinions about lots of subjects--but not to talk for 2 hours about them, while never taking a breath and being obviously bored when the listener comments. That is a lecture, not a conversation--and there are very few topics that I care to be lectured about.

BTW, the person who springs to mind is neither a man or an evangelical Christian. Most people with this tendency that I know are not men.

--tibac

HaysooChreesto! · 05-27-2003, 02:15 PM

My dad was like that. Now though, I argue with him and often times silence him.

My impression is that most people like to be led and when they see someone with forceful speech and body language that's talking about matters intellectual they will often just listen and take it in as gospel.
If the person in question is genuinely uninformed it can only take a pointed question or two to silence them. If they get pissed off about then it makes them look boorish anyway.

Soyin Milka · 05-27-2003, 05:49 PM

Sometimes the loudmouths are also physically intimidating.
Or worse, drunk.
I second those who suggested walking away as the best way to deal with these foul beasts.

Soy

wildernesse · 05-27-2003, 06:16 PM

On the other hand, people who are listening may *not* be taking it in as gospel, but due to social circumstances cannot get up and walk away from the situation or appear extremely bored. There's really no point in talking back to such people, as they don't tend to listen--so sometimes it is easier to sit and think about what you are going to make for dinner and wonder if the cat has thrown up again back home.

--tibac

Gurdur · 05-27-2003, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by wildernesse
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and wonder if the cat has thrown up again back home.

Isn't this just a good argument against both loudmouths and cats ?

I prefer hamsters, anyway.

wildernesse · 05-27-2003, 06:25 PM

lol about the cats. Fabulous, really, the noises she makes.

Our other cat is a normal, evil feline.

--tibac

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05-26-2003, 09:29 PM	#12
wildernesse Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,578	Maybe because it is nearly impossible to get a word in edgewise? I know someone who really only carries on what could be called conversation through email--otherwise, it is a monologue that can seriously last for hours. What's more irritating is that the moment you butt in and say something that is related, it is like they shut down and go "mmhmm.". This drives me insane (partially because I want to talk too, and at length as well!). --tibac

05-26-2003, 10:30 PM	#13
meritocrat Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: England Posts: 2,608	I actually respect a person who possess opinions on many subjects. At least it denotes they keep abreast of life and like to stimulate themselves intellectually. Though I do agree that self-righteous people are annoying.

05-26-2003, 10:50 PM	#14
Opera Nut Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston TX Posts: 1,671	Between dick-waving contests between wanna-be alpha males of CHIMP WORLD, and overbearing self righteous Christians, the rest of us can't get much of a word in!! The only way I know to deal with both groups is to WALK OFF.

05-27-2003, 02:15 PM	#16
HaysooChreesto! Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 7,737	My dad was like that. Now though, I argue with him and often times silence him. My impression is that most people like to be led and when they see someone with forceful speech and body language that's talking about matters intellectual they will often just listen and take it in as gospel. If the person in question is genuinely uninformed it can only take a pointed question or two to silence them. If they get pissed off about then it makes them look boorish anyway.

05-27-2003, 05:49 PM	#17
Soyin Milka Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Absurdistan Posts: 299	Sometimes the loudmouths are also physically intimidating. Or worse, drunk. I second those who suggested walking away as the best way to deal with these foul beasts. Soy

05-27-2003, 06:16 PM	#18
wildernesse Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,578	On the other hand, people who are listening may not be taking it in as gospel, but due to social circumstances cannot get up and walk away from the situation or appear extremely bored. There's really no point in talking back to such people, as they don't tend to listen--so sometimes it is easier to sit and think about what you are going to make for dinner and wonder if the cat has thrown up again back home. --tibac

05-27-2003, 06:25 PM	#20
wildernesse Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,578	lol about the cats. Fabulous, really, the noises she makes. Our other cat is a normal, evil feline. --tibac

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