Sauron

Then Israel shouldn't use tanks in an urban environment, now should they?

If you claim were true, then Israel would already know that also. And as a consequence, they wouldn't use the tanks in an urban environment.

Something smells fishy here, and more than likely it's another one of your made-up claims.

Sauron

No. Just superior information to what you have. You just can't see it, because you don't know enough about the topic. You're rather like the person who can't tell the difference between five star nigiri-sushi and their own dead goldfish.

1. Then you'd be wrong. The majority of the fighting - vast majority - are Palestinian.

2. All resistance movements in history have gotten help from outside groups - the resistance to the Nazis, the Solidarity Movement in Poland, etc. That doesn't mean that the movements aren't indigenous and authentic.


Apparently your history sucks as well.

1. The Palestinians did not steal the land from the Jews.
2. The Jews were scattered, but not by the Palestinians.

No, but you're too uninformed to be in this thread.

Sauron

Uh, no. They don't restrict that ability. Tanks have sights, for one thing.

Give it up. Your excuse smells like a three-day-old diaper.

Loren Pechtel

Except there wasn't a real threat trying to slip by in Washington.

Loren Pechtel

I said tanks *ON THEIR OWN*. Tanks don't operate alone unless they are in very open territory. The rock-throwing is an attempt to separate the tanks from the infantry. (Note: The rock-throwers don't know this. The rank and file don't know the true plans of the leaders over there.)

Loren Pechtel

And tank sights have nothing like the visibility of actually looking around. The tank sight is good at looking at what it's looking at but it doesn't have the field of view of a human.

Sauron

So if they're not operating on their own, then they're not in nearly as much danger as you tried to make it sound.

Not that anyone believed your story about rock-throwing kids being a threat to tanks - but I wanted to point out that your new excuse basically unravels your old excuse.

Sauron

Well yea, actually they do. Especially when you factor in night vision capability as well as heat sensitivity/infrared, I could make an argument that they are better than human vision.

But your original statement is just a claim, as usual. Tanks are threatened because the tank drivers are getting their asses kicked by rock-throwing teenagers. Apparently these Israeli tank drivers don't have helmets, either.

And you've already said that tanks don't operate alone, so your trumped-up concern isn't even valid.

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Sauron

And you have no proof of any real threat in the situation with the Israeli tanks, either. All you have is:

1. an Israeli tank gunning down kids throwing rocks; and
2. people like you finding any excuse imagineable to justify and rationalize such brutality.

Loren Pechtel

If there's no threat to Israeli tanks, how are the Palestinians sometimes able to kill them?