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RJS · 10-16-2002, 04:48 PM

"Why? What has He done wrong?" But they kept shouting, "Crucify Him!" all the more.

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Mageth · 10-16-2002, 05:06 PM

Careful, comparing Vanderzyden to Christ will make baby Jesus cry!

RJS · 10-16-2002, 05:23 PM

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Careful, comparing Vanderzyden to Christ will make baby Jesus cry!

That wasn't the comparison

Vanderzyden · 10-16-2002, 08:31 PM

Wow, I find it amazing that some of you are keeping such good track of me. You even go to the length of counting my posts.

I'm glad to see that I have a fan club, albeit an infamous one!

(Really, I don't see what in particular makes sense for me to reply. There are too many topics.)

Devilnaut · 10-16-2002, 09:16 PM

Present your evidence for the existence of your deity or stop referring to it. It is common courtesy in debate to back up your assertions, and you make countless ones without providing any substantiation whatsoever, let alone even a reference.

I don't personally care if you try to explain why that God exists is "obvious", but if you don't, do shut up about it?

rebelnerd · 10-16-2002, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Vanderzyden:
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(Really, I don't see what in particular makes sense for me to reply. There are too many topics.)</strong>

Just what we expected, more Vandering.

Vander, if you claim to have proof of god(s), then show your cards or fold. I think you're bluffing.

Filo

MadMordigan · 10-16-2002, 10:56 PM

Once again, an xian evangelical is shown to be both cowardly and full of shit.

What was that story about knowing a tree by its fruits?

Jack the Bodiless · 10-17-2002, 12:00 AM

My latest contribution to <a href="http://iidb.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=54&t=000481&p=14" target="_blank">"...Therefore, God Exists"</a>:

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ARGUMENT FROM SECRET KNOWLEDGE (VANDERZYDEN'S ARGUMENT)
1. There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of God.
2. No, I'm not going to tell you what it is.
3. The only possible explanation for your lack of knowledge of this evidence is that you have not studied enough.
4. Or maybe your atheistic presupposition is blinding you to the truth.
5. But it's overwhelming. Trust me on this.
6. It's so overwhelming that no reasonable person can honestly reach the conclusion that God does not exist.
7. Therefore God exists.

I posted that before creating this thread, so there was a risk that a detailed reply from Vanderzyden would have made it inappropriate.

But I see that Vander has remained true to form.

Jobar · 10-17-2002, 06:50 AM

Hi-ho, off to RR&P we go! (Like I really had any doubt...)

But a good try, Jack. Vander, any thread you start in EoG I shall put in RR&P until you address this issue honestly. If you know what honesty is.

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10-16-2002, 04:48 PM	#11
RJS Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 303	"Why? What has He done wrong?" But they kept shouting, "Crucify Him!" all the more. [ October 16, 2002: Message edited by: RJS ]</p>

10-16-2002, 05:06 PM	#12
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	Careful, comparing Vanderzyden to Christ will make baby Jesus cry!

10-16-2002, 08:31 PM	#14
Vanderzyden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California Posts: 694	Wow, I find it amazing that some of you are keeping such good track of me. You even go to the length of counting my posts. I'm glad to see that I have a fan club, albeit an infamous one! (Really, I don't see what in particular makes sense for me to reply. There are too many topics.)

10-16-2002, 09:16 PM	#15
Devilnaut Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 374	Present your evidence for the existence of your deity or stop referring to it. It is common courtesy in debate to back up your assertions, and you make countless ones without providing any substantiation whatsoever, let alone even a reference. I don't personally care if you try to explain why that God exists is "obvious", but if you don't, do shut up about it?

10-16-2002, 10:56 PM	#17
MadMordigan Beloved Deceased Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 2,704	Once again, an xian evangelical is shown to be both cowardly and full of shit. What was that story about knowing a tree by its fruits?

10-17-2002, 06:50 AM	#19
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Hi-ho, off to RR&P we go! (Like I really had any doubt...) But a good try, Jack. Vander, any thread you start in EoG I shall put in RR&P until you address this issue honestly. If you know what honesty is.

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