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Today Xtianity presents itself as being "nice" the Salvation Army the Brotherhood of St Lawrence etc, but 400 years ago it was more punitive, burning witches and heretics at the stake, with and the crusades and the Spanish Conquistadors. Xtianity practiced the way it used to be then would not last and quickly die out to just a few zealous diehards like some of our fundies. So for more popular following it needs to evolve to something that is more palatable to its potential believers. That is the only way it can survive in the long run.

luvluv

You know, a handful of us manage to be both educated and Christian. What makes you think they are mutally exclusive?

I don't think that the atheism of the upper echelons of academia has anything to do with education itself, but with academic culture. A few hundred years ago, the most educated people in the world were Christians. Indeed, the church was the only place where one could acquire a good education. This wasn't necessarily because with increasing education came understanding that "Christianity has been proven true." It was because Christians were the ones doing the educating.

And now atheists are doing the educating, and predictable results have followed.

luvluv

Post hoc ergo proctor hoc.

(If you folks want to spread logic, you might want to start around here.)

never been there

You're right, of course, it doesn't prove anything, but that doesn't mean it isn't suspicious.

Tenpudo

What kind of "education" system did you have in mind??

Evolutionist

as an atheist, i find someones belief in a god etc to be a total non-issue. it simply isn't relevent to anything of any worth i can think of. pushing their beliefs on others is something i obviusly take exception to, and so do most other people on the boards.

personally, although i can see how many would see removing religion as a good thing, i can't help imagining a hypothetical future where religion was removed over night. can you imagine the disasters that would quickly follow? there are people out there who honestly see nothing wrong with killing, and going on a riot etc when theres no god to make objective moral rules etc. assuming that they are honest about it, such a reality would be a nightmare.

theism has its uses, and if it were to be removed, it would have to be slowly- some people are simply too psychologically weak to accept living without belief in an afterlife, or justice after death, or even a "meaning of life" without some magic man up in the sky to dictate it for them. and i don't mean that offensively, although it does look like it.

rfwu

The only way to truly kill off any religion is to kill off all of its followers, just like the way they did it in the old days!

Gothic_J

that just makes martyrs. nah, you surrond fundies with educated logical thinkers, and that will eliminate all but the hard core thinkers.

its easy to die for your religion - not for a cult youve been shown is irrational, untrue, and rather evil.

Kenneth

Why bother?

Christianity is dying or is mutating into something else.

Proof#1: There is a thread in the GRD about priests clamoring for Rome to allow married men into the priesthood.

Proof#2: The Episcopalian has just allowed homosexual to serve as pastor.

Christianity may not vanish from the earth, but, one thing is for sure, todays Christian will not resemble the Christians of tomorrow.

MooWare

A few hundred years ago most educated people were christians because they didn't dare be anything else. Lest they be tortured, brutlized and executed by the loving church.