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Old 08-24-2007, 04:32 PM   #51
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I take that as a yes? You don't mind being killed, or having your baby killed? A simple yes or no would be helpful.
TBmom, this is one of those sad examples where a person is so wrapped up in a religion that they have nearly forsaken humanity, for all its good and ills. That nearly nothing matters to them except for sitting next to a mythological creature to escape the wrath of a prophecy written thousands of years ago. Merlin is no doubt Rapture Ready.
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wrong answer.
I do not fear death, as I believe it it merely an opportunity to move on.
That doesn't mean I don't enjoy this life .
as Paul said
"If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me"
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"I am torn between the two"


I just don't love my life to the exclusion of all else.
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Old 08-24-2007, 10:15 PM   #52
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If Adam was perfect at one point how did he lose that perefection? Oh yeah, he screwed up, or perhaps the standards for perfection were much lower in those days.

The standards were lower.
Don't eat the fruit of that tree.
So the word "perfection" is basically whatever it needs to be, in order that it fit the model rather than the model fitting the mold. How convenient, and telling.
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:33 AM   #53
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I am curious if you actually believe the story of Adam and Eve literally happened as it is said in the Bible, or if you believe the story is an anology of something more plausibe that can be interpreted differently.
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The standards were lower.
Don't eat the fruit of that tree.
I am curious if you actually believe the story of Adam and Eve literally happened as it is said in the Bible, or if you believe the story is an anology of something more plausibe that can be interpreted differently.

I believe the account to be literal.
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TBmom, this is one of those sad examples where a person is so wrapped up in a religion that they have nearly forsaken humanity, for all its good and ills. That nearly nothing matters to them except for sitting next to a mythological creature to escape the wrath of a prophecy written thousands of years ago. Merlin is no doubt Rapture Ready.
BZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt
wrong answer.
I do not fear death, as I believe it it merely an opportunity to move on.
That doesn't mean I don't enjoy this life .
as Paul said
"If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me"
and
"I am torn between the two"


I just don't love my life to the exclusion of all else.
So the murder of 13 million human beings is significant only from our finite perspective, unless it's you who's being killed, in which case it suddenly becomes quite significant. May I just remark that you are a heartless, self-centered and cruel person?
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I am curious if you actually believe the story of Adam and Eve literally happened as it is said in the Bible, or if you believe the story is an anology of something more plausibe that can be interpreted differently.

I believe the account to be literal.
Do you believe that one person is morally responsible for the acts of another?
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BZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt
wrong answer.
I do not fear death, as I believe it it merely an opportunity to move on.
That doesn't mean I don't enjoy this life .
as Paul said
"If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me"
and
"I am torn between the two"


I just don't love my life to the exclusion of all else.
So the murder of 13 million human beings is significant only from our finite perspective, unless it's you who's being killed, in which case it suddenly becomes quite significant. May I just remark that you are a heartless, self-centered and cruel person?

I'm not talking here about the murder of anyone but myself or my family.
In previous posts, I talked about the potential perspective of an eternal God
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I believe the account to be literal.
Do you believe that one person is morally responsible for the acts of another?
No
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So the murder of 13 million human beings is significant only from our finite perspective, unless it's you who's being killed, in which case it suddenly becomes quite significant. May I just remark that you are a heartless, self-centered and cruel person?

I'm not talking here about the murder of anyone but myself or my family.
In previous posts, I talked about the potential perspective of an eternal God
Why would that be relevant to the question posed?
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Do you believe that one person is morally responsible for the acts of another?
No
Then what difference would it make whether Genesis is literally true, since we are not responsible for the deeds of those two mythical humans portrayed there?

And how could Christ atone for my sins--wouldn't I have to do that myself?
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