beth

I'd say, "do as ye will, but harm none." I also think that the Golden Rule is something good in which to live by. I try not to do anything that will cause harm to others or myself.

Gunnaheave

Moral resoning is not about origins. If people think the golden rule makes sense, then why not follow it. This has no bearing on whether or not God exists.

Sue Sponte

Do you have human slaves? Why not?

VonEvilstein

Yes, I have no morals. Poor, poor me, having to make do with ethics, instead.

rubbercok3000

This country doesnt allow slavery.

Aquila ka Hecate

The bible does.
Lev 25 .44-46
Are you for real?

Ensign Steve

I knew when I answered that question I was taking the bait.



Well, since you asked ...

Why does that suck? I think it's a great moral standard. I guess Jesus thought so too, if he taught it. Not surprising, since it is such a great idea it exists in some form in almost every ethical and/or religious system. JC did not invent being nice to other people. Nor has xianity cornered the market on it.

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So why not just possibly consider the fact that a good God inspired the golden rule?

Ooh, that's an easy one. Because I don't believe that any god exists, especially not a good one.

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Hell your already prescribing to a religious ethical standpoint, ...

Hmmm... could it be that said religion is prescribing to an objective moral standard?

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...why not just enjoy the fruits of your labor and call out to a deity when your alone sometimes?

???! Even if I did think there was anyone/thing to call out to, what the heck would you have me call out to it? "Hey! I'm alone!" What is the point of that? Besides, I enjoy the fruits of my labor whenever I spend my hard-earned cash on something I enjoy, especially beer.

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Whats it gonna hurt?

What's it going to hurt? My continual quest for truth and knowledge of the way the world actually is.

Gunnaheave

Shall we also point out that a lot of the ethical principles supposedly inspired by God lead people to behavior that is inconsistent with the Golden Rule, or at least renders it meaningless. God is the ultimate trump card. Hate someone; just find a verse.

Sue Sponte

And why is that your bible doesn't deem it immoral? Could it be that there is morality beyond your theistic beliefs? That the bible is not an infallible reference for morality guidance?

It doesn't surprise me to see you cavalierly dismiss that the bible was wrong about slavery, because it defeats any argument that the bible is a valid source regarding morality.

Ensign Steve

Notice that the predictability of the reaction to the "do unto others" answer was matched only by the predictability of the omission of any reaction to virtue ethics (Aristotle, before Christ) and libertarianism (John Stuart Mill, athiest, I think, or at least non-xian). I put those in there on purpose to see if they would get a bite, but of course, they did not. He only picked out the answer he was fishing for. But what do I expect, I took the bait.