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kkholiday · 05-02-2003, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Tarnaak
According to scripture;
When you die, you sleep until the rapture. The Catholic viewpoint from my perspective ( and I have done research) is that you can pray to the Virgin Mary or any other Human made Saint and basically be forgiven of whatever no matter how many time you do it.

Are you implying that Catholics believe that Mary and the saints forgive sins?

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The Catholic believe they can continue doing THE SAME EXACT thing day to day and as long as they do their "praying the necklace", they will be forgiven.

Also by Tarnaak:

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"what you don't understand you make light of.. ."

Seems to be going around, I guess.

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The Scriptures state that one is to Repent, to turn away from whatever sin one is commiting. However, if you repent, but one day down the line you "give in" to a sin (sin, is that Behavior which God finds offensive), God is faithful and just and will forgive you that sin if you are sincere in asking for forgivness.

That's pretty much the Catholic understanding of forgiveness that you were just picking at. Even if you make the "SAME EXACT" sin, if you sincerely repent you still can be forgiven. Praying the rosary, or pray to saints are entirely different issues which have nothing to do with forgiveness itself.

mike_decock · 05-02-2003, 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by Badfish
Because you have heard the Gospel and have rejected it. Have you heard and studied the gospel enough to come to a satisfactory conclusion for yourself?

Hell

The Torments of hell

Links inspired and taken from gunnysgt.

There is no Hell.

The Origin and History of the Doctrine of Endless Punishment

-Mike...

abe smith · 05-02-2003, 07:56 AM

; which doctrine I am not adequately informed about to explain
now, does deal w/ the matter of those who do not/are not able?/have never had the opportunity? to believe.
If any of all that stuff *were *so, the chances are that it's not your business to have to judge about all that/sort it out. Do what you "know"/believe you're supposed to do, *practise custody of the eyes* (MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!), and that's all that's required of you. It is written, ' "judgement is mine", saith the Lord'. And that ,if it were so and you believed it, let's you off the hook.

05-02-2003, 07:56 AM	#23
abe smith Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: springfield, MA. USA Posts: 2,482	the RC doctrine of "invincible ignorance" ; which doctrine I am not adequately informed about to explain now, does deal w/ the matter of those who do not/are not able?/have never had the opportunity? to believe. If any of all that stuff were so, the chances are that it's not your business to have to judge about all that/sort it out. Do what you "know"/believe you're supposed to do, practise custody of the eyes (MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!), and that's all that's required of you. It is written, ' "judgement is mine", saith the Lord'. And that ,if it were so and you believed it, let's you off the hook.

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