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Old 06-21-2003, 08:36 PM   #11
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Hmm. I think I need something of a generic example before I can make an opinion.
Well, along the lines of what? Let me know and I'll see what I can come up with.

Let's say you are a doctor and some people come to you needing help. They have no money or very little that has to go to something like rent. Would they be justified in making you help whoever is sick if you refused? I know this may not be a big problem in the states, but I have read it is in many places.

What if there is a famine going on and a person who owns lots of food in storehouses raises the price so high people have to lose everything just to buy food. Why should they do that instead of just making the man turn over his food?

It is in their self interest to just take his grain or make him sell it at a very cheap price. It is not in their self interest to just give him all or next to all they have to get food from him.

I'll be the first to admit a lot of this is subjective stuff too.

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They have no money or very little that has to go to something like rent. Would they be justified in making you help whoever is sick if you refused?
Forced? no. Punished for refusing, perhaps, depending on the situation.
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Forced? no. Punished for refusing, perhaps, depending on the situation.
I see your point. You couldn't "make" the guy or gal do anything. However, you sure could take him/her out and shoot them or seriously cause them grief if they refused to give your loved one medical care.
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I think that Buddrow_Wilson needs to have been in need!


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I see your point. You couldn't "make" the guy or gal do anything. However, you sure could take him/her out and shoot them or seriously cause them grief if they refused to give your loved one medical care.
Like I said it depends on the situation. You go banging on some doctor's door demanding he perform his service on your sick relative, I wouldn't think he should be punished for refusing unless it is something that is immediately life-threatening. If you go to the hospital and the doctor refuses to help you because you are Jewish or something, then of course that's a serious offense.

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I think that Buddrow_Wilson needs to have been in need!
Actually, I have been. And am currently, but considering I have little income and no insurance, I am quite discriminated against. Still I don't see how forcing someone to care for me is a good idea. Its more of an issue with the industry than any single person.

I'm assuming this thread isn't merely about life or death situations. Suppose you're the best damn bricklayer known to mankind, should we force you to lay bricks?
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Please Martin, Please Buddrow!

I did not start this thread to have a shouting match. Let's engage in a peaceful discussion. This is just a personal request. I have no formal authority in the Politics Forum.
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"I'm assuming this thread isn't merely about life or death situations. Suppose you're the best damn bricklayer known to mankind, should we force you to lay bricks?"

To be honest I am not sure. Somebody has to lay bricks though. What if no one else knew how?
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"""Like I said it depends on the situation. You go banging on some doctor's door demanding he perform his service on your sick relative, I wouldn't think he should be punished for refusing unless it is something that is immediately life-threatening. If you go to the hospital and the doctor refuses to help you because you are Jewish or something, then of course that's a serious offense. """"

I think I can agree with that pretty much.
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