WinAce

Hey, I happen to admire honest creationists who admit that the only reason they take that position is faith!

... At least they're less annoying than those that keep insisting their 'moon dust' and '2nd law of thermodynamics' and 'new information' arguments are <a href="http://www.blizzforums.com/showthread.php?s=aeed2af45746cfd5d030fe61a9e43d2e& threadid=56" target="_blank">in any way valid</a>...

GeoTheo

Then help me with my dilemma. How can I be a biologist? Do I have to believe in evolution? Can't I still do field research on large mamalian predators and be in National Geographic?

scombrid

If someone tells you that water is potable but it gives you the skitters, is that water really potable?

Coragyps

You don't need to "believe in" diddley-squat. Study hard, don't editorialize on tests, get good grades, and divide your mind into airtight compartments for different types of knowledge, and you'll do just fine.

scigirl

I find your plea rather disturbing, Theo. Is it more important for you to already have the answers, or to be able to seek the answers? Are you so afraid of being wrong? Are you terrified of uncertainty? I hate to say this for fear of sounding cliche, but 'A True Scientist' fears not these things.

I think you can do many things just fine, as a YEC or an ID'er. But when you attempt to conform scientific discoveries to an ancient text written by primitive men, well good luck I guess. Personally, I think such efforts are an incredible waste of time, energy, and intellect, and it saddens me to see people who are highly intelligent turn their brains off when it comes to their religion.

In a line from one of my favorite movies (Silence of the Lambs), Clarice Starling asks Hannibal, "What about it, Dr. Lecter - are you strong enough to point that high-powered perception at yourself? Why don't you look at yourself and write down what you see?"

How about it Theo? You have a good grasp of skepticism when it comes to scientific discoveries -- but how about your religious beliefs? I challenge you to read a couple articles <a href="http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/theism/christianity/criticism.html" target="_blank">here</a> about Biblical "inerrancy" with that same wonderous skepticism, and tell us what you see.

scigirl

excreationist

GeoTheo - what do you think about this?
<a href="http://iidb.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=42&t=000600" target="_blank">Why I gave up creationism... the Green River Formation</a>

Please read through the links in the first post, including the very long <a href="http://www.atheists.org/bone.pit/rockofages.html" target="_blank">atheists.org one</a>.