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Polar Bear · 12-18-2002, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Jupiter's Terrier:
<strong>You're judged by your whole life, by a being who stands outside time. (We don't know that for sure, but it's a fair assumption.) Now, we know that if you spent years sinning, accepted Jesus, and then died, you would go to heaven, even if you had only spent a month being saved before you died. So, if everything in your life is taken into account, why shouldn't you also go to heaven if you accept Jesus, spend years sinning, and then die? It seems implausible to humans because we tend to think of eternity as coming after the end of someone's life. But, according to the more intellectual Christians, that's not what eternity is; eternity is simply outside of time. </strong>

whoa, this makes my head hurt ... if eternity is "outside of time" then are the people who are destined for Heaven already there, somehow? if it is truly outside of time then there is no recognition of when someone arrives; they must be always there. right? or am I reading this wrong?

also, how do specific events like Satan's fall and Judgement Day figure into a timeless eternity?

whew! maybe this should be a separate thread!

seebs · 12-21-2002, 02:37 PM

Note that many OSAS people go the other way; they say that, if you ever turn away from Christianity, it proves that you weren't *REALLY* sincere in the first place. I have my doubts about this model.

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12-21-2002, 02:37 PM	#22
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	Note that many OSAS people go the other way; they say that, if you ever turn away from Christianity, it proves that you weren't REALLY sincere in the first place. I have my doubts about this model.

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