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shome42 · 06-20-2003, 09:15 AM

Just something to think about.

If someone actually did start to fund commercials or a PR campaign, you can bet that Bill O'Rielly types would double or triple the publicity when they inevitably discuss the ads on their shows.

conkermaniac · 06-20-2003, 09:46 AM

I don't especially appreciate Buddrow_Wilson's username, but I think his idea has some validity. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I agree 100%. If you'll listen to some of those religious fanatics speak, they talk about how all Christians are moral people with a firm sense of justice, and that any person who thinks otherwise is possessed by Satan (in other words, not really a Christian). Perhaps we could propogate a similar idea with atheism. LOL, maybe we could say that any immoral person who claims that they are an atheist is really a believer who is trying to undermine the atheist movement.

Buddrow_Wilson · 06-20-2003, 04:19 PM

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I don't especially appreciate Buddrow_Wilson's username, but I think his idea has some validity.

appreciate? What is it that bothers you about my name? BTW, I'm not too keen on your's now that you bring it up.

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Continued: If you'll listen to some of those religious fanatics speak, they talk about how all Christians are moral people with a firm sense of justice, and that any person who thinks otherwise is possessed by Satan (in other words, not really a Christian). Perhaps we could propogate a similar idea with atheism. LOL, maybe we could say that any immoral person who claims that they are an atheist is really a believer who is trying to undermine the atheist movement.

The thing is we don't want to try to spread falsehoods concerning atheism. A good point to get across is that it isn't a belief system in any sense. I don't think there really is an inherently positive side to atheism . I view it as neutral. I don't even think atheism would need to be the theme. More important would be to show that living without fundamental religious influence is preferable and there are successful people doing it

Nikolai · 06-21-2003, 12:37 AM

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The thing is we don't want to try to spread falsehoods concerning atheism. A good point to get across is that it isn't a belief system in any sense. I don't think there really is an inherently positive side to atheism . I view it as neutral. I don't even think atheism would need to be the theme. More important would be to show that living without fundamental religious influence is preferable and there are successful people doing it

And I feel we cannot leave out the "Atheists in Foxholes" aspect. I would be easy to make a storng statement with this. For example interviews, in the style of ones done before Band of Brothers, of WWII veterans who talk about atheims and the war. Or a list of names of Vietnam casualties who were atheists. This would tie in patriotism and duty to country with lack of belief.

Viti · 06-22-2003, 07:14 PM

What about talk radio? Coast to Coast AM had a hge audience, and it started as a grassroots type thing with Art Bell. I don't know how to go about it, but if Art Bell was syndicated nationwide with millions of listeners with his subject matter, certainly a skeptics show (ala Bullshit) could do well.

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06-20-2003, 09:15 AM	#21
shome42 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: seattle, wa Posts: 1,001	Just something to think about. If someone actually did start to fund commercials or a PR campaign, you can bet that Bill O'Rielly types would double or triple the publicity when they inevitably discuss the ads on their shows.

06-20-2003, 09:46 AM	#22
conkermaniac Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: American in China Posts: 620	I don't especially appreciate Buddrow_Wilson's username, but I think his idea has some validity. Unfortunately, I'm not sure I agree 100%. If you'll listen to some of those religious fanatics speak, they talk about how all Christians are moral people with a firm sense of justice, and that any person who thinks otherwise is possessed by Satan (in other words, not really a Christian). Perhaps we could propogate a similar idea with atheism. LOL, maybe we could say that any immoral person who claims that they are an atheist is really a believer who is trying to undermine the atheist movement.

06-22-2003, 07:14 PM	#25
Viti Contributor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Down South Posts: 12,879	What about talk radio? Coast to Coast AM had a hge audience, and it started as a grassroots type thing with Art Bell. I don't know how to go about it, but if Art Bell was syndicated nationwide with millions of listeners with his subject matter, certainly a skeptics show (ala Bullshit) could do well.

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