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Majody · 08-14-2003, 06:37 PM

"No matter how you slice it, dice it, or sugar-coat it; no matter how you try to interpolate it, twist it, or spin it; no matter how many wordy, esoteric, philosophical arguments you come up with; no matter how many dead saints you quote; you cannot absolve God of the ultimate responsibility for all the world�s pain, suffering, agony, evil and sin, unless you are willing to violate or modify the the way God is described in the Bible. And the millisecond that you modify one of his attributes, you�ve changed the very basis of what you say is your belief. You have made him less than the God you claim him to be. He is no longer the Christian God, but YOUR God."

This is kind of a branch from what penumbra originally said, with a little rant of my own added in. I just want to get some points of view on this matter. I know this is cutting some major corners, ie God did not throw a test tube to earth that contained AIDS. But if God is truly an OMNIgod, it all boils down to the above statement.

Thanks for any input.

Doctor X · 08-14-2003, 09:35 PM

It about states it "in a nutshell."

--J.D.

sophie · 08-15-2003, 10:59 AM

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you cannot absolve God of the ultimate responsibility for all the world�s pain, suffering, agony, evil and sin, unless you are willing to violate or modify the the way God is described in the Bible

What about a simpler lesson? What about actually trying to comprehend what it is without dogma and slide rule logic? What about really making an honest try to understand without having to cater to the idle few? What about these choices?

This is Sophie signing off.

Doctor X · 08-15-2003, 12:05 PM

Someone please alert the press . . .

. . . the drama queen has left . . .

. . . for now. . . .

--J.D.

winstonjen · 08-15-2003, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor X
Someone please alert the press . . .

. . . the drama queen has left . . .

. . . for now. . . .

--J.D.

I'll break out the whisky. Let's start the song and dance. I'll host parties for when Magus and Grive leave as well.

Biff the unclean · 08-15-2003, 05:48 PM

A little water on the side please in case of an aquatic emergency.

It almost sounded as though Sophie was admitting that's it's all a myth.

Kruzkal · 08-15-2003, 06:38 PM

Its time to partay already? Damn . . . I was gonna invite her here to get logically ripped apart . . .

Note: Do not click the link if you are "logically challenged" .

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Have you ever worked on Sundays?

08-16-2003, 01:42 AM

While she's away, does anyone know what "slide rule logic" is?

Quantum Ninja · 08-16-2003, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by DMB
While she's away, does anyone know what "slide rule logic" is?

I'm afraid the one person who knows just left.

Googled the phrase and it only returned three pages.

Doctor X · 08-16-2003, 02:27 PM

If you combine "Omni" with it and add capital letters it reads so much more impressive:

"OmniSLIDERULELOGIC"

See?

--J.D.

08-14-2003, 06:37 PM	#1
Majody Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Tx Posts: 26	Branch from "It's All God's Fault!" "No matter how you slice it, dice it, or sugar-coat it; no matter how you try to interpolate it, twist it, or spin it; no matter how many wordy, esoteric, philosophical arguments you come up with; no matter how many dead saints you quote; you cannot absolve God of the ultimate responsibility for all the world�s pain, suffering, agony, evil and sin, unless you are willing to violate or modify the the way God is described in the Bible. And the millisecond that you modify one of his attributes, you�ve changed the very basis of what you say is your belief. You have made him less than the God you claim him to be. He is no longer the Christian God, but YOUR God." This is kind of a branch from what penumbra originally said, with a little rant of my own added in. I just want to get some points of view on this matter. I know this is cutting some major corners, ie God did not throw a test tube to earth that contained AIDS. But if God is truly an OMNIgod, it all boils down to the above statement. Thanks for any input.

08-15-2003, 06:38 PM	#7
Kruzkal Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Void Posts: 77	Partay? Its time to partay already? Damn . . . I was gonna invite her here to get logically ripped apart . . . Note: Do not click the link if you are "logically challenged" . __________________ Have you ever worked on Sundays?

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08-14-2003, 09:35 PM	#2
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	It about states it "in a nutshell." --J.D.

08-15-2003, 12:05 PM	#4
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Someone please alert the press . . . . . . the drama queen has left . . . . . . for now. . . . --J.D.

08-15-2003, 05:48 PM	#6
Biff the unclean Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: an inaccessible island fortress Posts: 10,638	A little water on the side please in case of an aquatic emergency. It almost sounded as though Sophie was admitting that's it's all a myth.

08-16-2003, 01:42 AM	#8
DMB Guest Posts: n/a	While she's away, does anyone know what "slide rule logic" is?

08-16-2003, 02:27 PM	#10
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	If you combine "Omni" with it and add capital letters it reads so much more impressive: "OmniSLIDERULELOGIC" See? --J.D.

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