G V

UCMJ Art 125 "...unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. "

So where does the UCMJ say oral or anal?

Do you think the average recruit/ boot knows what 'unnatural carnal copulation' means ? Does it include 'interfemora' 'tribadism' 'Harvard rub' or 'Princeton rub'?

Autonemesis

I'm sure there are, but I doubt I'd agree with you always on which ones were and which ones weren't.

tronvillain

Vibr8gKiwi:
Yes, but people often use the word to refer only to anal sex. Not that the distinction matters to me, since I am one either way. *chuckle*

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joedad

Kind Bud, I think you've just been promoted.

raistlinjones

I personally don't care whether they are "sodomites" or not - seducing children is wrong either way. Let me put it to you this way: Would it be less wrong for a priest to be involved in vaginal sex with a girl (obviously) than for him to be involved in anal sex with her?

To be honest, I'd actually be more concerned about the first. At least in the latter she can't get pregnant.

Sunfair

WOW! What are those?

I demand sex education!

G V

Google will lead you to 2 references for the first, 2000 for the second and zero for the good old days male only Ivy tricks.

Which reminds me of an old college joke: Why do some Ivy League boys wear all green clothes? Because it's harder to see them doing it under the ivy.

Since I was young, people have said I should write a book. Maybe I just found a title: "Ivy tricks", having been on staff at Columbia and dated a few Penn men.

Think I could get a grant to "research" Ivy tricks?

The rub was the use of your drunk/passed out roommate or male friend by pressing it against stomach or back.

That list came from a 1976 chat I had with six lawyers about the definition of sodomy. I asked if their state law prohibited that list and only one lawyer even knew what interfemora was. I replied in Virginia where only oral or anal with genital penetration is criminal that none of the four was a crime.

Sojourner553

But you are supposed to have God on your side so that you do not have to stoop to such low levels right???

Or to put this another way, if you really possess superior doctrines/morals (ie the real "Truth") why do you feel it necessary to partake in gamemanship and manipulation ?

Sojourner

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Autonemesis

joedad: people misspell Kind Bud with a 'g' all the time. I have no idea why, but it never fails. Everywhere I use this alias, one or more people keep spelling it with a 'g' instead of 'd' even after I point it out to them.