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Old 04-30-2003, 05:55 AM   #181
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Malai5:

I look at your posts and still can't quite believe what I'm reading. Mothers could use your story as a cautionary tale for the children about what could happen to them if they fail to develop critical thinking skills. Your responses are vague and evasive. You refuse to offer any justifications for your claims at all, and in fact refuse to look at them in any larger context. The science of the brain is of absolutely no interest to you. Think about this (I think this is the biggest irony going, not just in this case, but in general): you dismiss cognitive science and epistemology, sight unseen, as too limiting !!! This is analogous to refusing to go outside because you don't wish for your mental representations of flowers, trees, rivers, mountains, the sky, etc., to be limited to what actually exists, when really nothing our brains have the capacity to produce or represent can even approach the breathtaking reality. What precisely do cognitive science and epistemology limit, freedom to construct simple imaginary realities? You haven't even examined automatic writing in a larger context, have you? Have you even done an internet search to see what kind of company you're in? You have said "We do connect with entities, be they our own higher selves, (which are entities in their own right) or other groups of entities." How can this possibly be enough for you-- to be absolutely certain that you are correct in your assessments and assumptions without any deeper understanding or investigation? You have for yourself a universe with the consciousness of a human, whose existence is centered around the spiritual journey of humans, but science and philosophy are limited? Go look outside.
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A. Substantive information would help.
B. You don't know my position
Dear John Page.

A) Ask your questions of the material, you already know how we access it.

B) John, just what do you think those that are in touch with their psychic abilities do with them. We know only too well your position.

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Old 04-30-2003, 10:29 AM   #183
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Hey there Malai triad. Are your efforts producing results?

You may have answered this already, please forgive me: Have you examined the "Seth" material yet?
Dear Nowhere357.

We had a quick look at the ''Seth'' material and it has similarities with very early material we were getting lots of years ago. It was right for it's time.

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Old 04-30-2003, 10:30 AM   #184
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B) John, just what do you think those that are in touch with their psychic abilities do with them. We know only too well your position.
Malai:

I do wish you'd use the smilies when you post this stuff. All six of you.

Jeers, Chohn.
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Malai5:

I look at your posts and still can't quite believe what I'm reading. Mothers could use your story as a cautionary tale for the children about what could happen to them if they fail to develop critical thinking skills. Your responses are vague and evasive. You refuse to offer any justifications for your claims at all, and in fact refuse to look at them in any larger context. The science of the brain is of absolutely no interest to you. Think about this (I think this is the biggest irony going, not just in this case, but in general): you dismiss cognitive science and epistemology, sight unseen, as too limiting !!! This is analogous to refusing to go outside because you don't wish for your mental representations of flowers, trees, rivers, mountains, the sky, etc., to be limited to what actually exists, when really nothing our brains have the capacity to produce or represent can even approach the breathtaking reality. What precisely do cognitive science and epistemology limit, freedom to construct simple imaginary realities? You haven't even examined automatic writing in a larger context, have you? Have you even done an internet search to see what kind of company you're in? You have said "We do connect with entities, be they our own higher selves, (which are entities in their own right) or other groups of entities." How can this possibly be enough for you-- to be absolutely certain that you are correct in your assessments and assumptions without any deeper understanding or investigation? You have for yourself a universe with the consciousness of a human, whose existence is centered around the spiritual journey of humans, but science and philosophy are limited? Go look outside.
Dear wordfailure.

All of the above, I have studied at great length over the 35 odd years I have ''been at it''.
What do you think we do to record the material we get.
It is ''automatic writing'' from a level and refined to a degree of accuracy that the term ''automatic'' is not fitting.
Have you not read our posts when we have said that we access a ''stream'' of cognitive/objective thought. This we do, and have done, for quite a number of years under all conditions. We do not need to prepare ourselves in any way, we just connect and it flows.
What we understand about the process, you will not see in books, but you will, when we publish. When we start to release the ''reams'' of information that we have collected covering the human and universal landscape. What we post is but a small fraction of what we do.

When we say that the 3D understanding of the above subjects is too limiting, we are merely stating a fact of our experience in these areas.
We know how and why we receive our information. We know where it comes from and what it is for. We know the whys and wherefores of the cognitive sciences that the 3D eyes see only a fraction of.
When you are privileged as we are to be given the insights into the workings of the universe, you too will see from a perspective that makes the 3D understanding seem very shabby and small.
When we say these things, they are not in the way of a judgement, but facts to us. These are the understandings gained from the perspective we have been privileged to be given.

Wordfailure, we know whats out there (in the world) and we know that there is no one else that is in touch with what we are in touch with, or get the information that we get. It's as simple as that, the plain truth.
Ever seen ''Droids and Beings'' mentioned anywhere else?

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I have one self, and that self is a happy person.
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I have one self, and that self is a happy person.
Dear johngalt.

You have one OBVIOUS self, with 3 parts.
The fact that you are happy is great to hear. It probably means that at this moment, all 3 parts of you are working in unison. Each time you start to make a quantum leap in growth, it tends to upset this equilibrium and gives you an ''itchy'' feeling that one interprets as being not so happy.

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Dear malai5,
I've been following this thread for quite some time and has still kept me interested. I see your logic and reality of this understanding of the self. But I have this one question.
When you use the term "getting from"(little to bigger) and "operating in"(big/higher self mode) I am led to assume that one can only operate or be at one mode at a time. Right?
My question is, what if you're involved in situations which involve the emotions(which the little self has, as you stated), such as let's say being in a romantic relationship with a girl. But of course you want to still operate in the big/higher self mode, for it allows for "a clearer way of seeing without judgements". Do constantly "hop" from little to big self mode, so that you can see the picture clearer, but also allow for your emotions to continue flow?

Just needing some enlightenment on the subject. Thanks.
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Dear malai5,
I've been following this thread for quite some time and has still kept me interested. I see your logic and reality of this understanding of the self. But I have this one question.
When you use the term "getting from"(little to bigger) and "operating in"(big/higher self mode) I am led to assume that one can only operate or be at one mode at a time. Right?
My question is, what if you're involved in situations which involve the emotions(which the little self has, as you stated), such as let's say being in a romantic relationship with a girl. But of course you want to still operate in the big/higher self mode, for it allows for "a clearer way of seeing without judgements". Do constantly "hop" from little to big self mode, so that you can see the picture clearer, but also allow for your emotions to continue flow?

Just needing some enlightenment on the subject. Thanks.
Dear jiggerman.

Welcome to the forum and this thread.
What tends to happen, is as you have stated, you tend to ''dance'' between one ''state'' and the other.
As you do this, the higher state, the ''bigger'' self tends to overlay the ''little'' self and slowly replace it. All ''little'' emotions move to a bigger form of same. It is a bit disconcerting at first, as you feel you are becomming less emotional, or even unemotional, but it is just the ''difference'' in the two states that is being experienced. We, as humans are so used to one state of being, that the change is very noticable. To those who are not experiencing this change, it is very hard to explain to. The trade off however, the clearer vision gained, is worth the effort. If your partner can see by your ''change'' in ways of being, no judgement etc, they may come to your understanding of this better way of living. Remember though, it is a personal journey and should not be forced upon anyone, for all have their free will which is not to be voilated.
Thank you for your questions, for you know, we are here to clarify any queries you may have as we are living examples of the universal way, but still works in progress.

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