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Old 01-30-2003, 09:05 AM   #21
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I wonder who would be praising God had he grabbed the wrong power line, you know the ones that are live and send tens of thousands of volts of electricity through you body when you touch it, you know the kind that fry you from the inside out?
They are all the 'wrong' power line. If you're flying through the air, you can grab any one power line with no ill effects. But if you touch any other line while still grasping the first, then you're human flamb�. That's why birds can sit on power lines, they're only sitting on one.

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It was dumb luck and quick thinking by this guy, along with the efforts put forth by the RESCUE team. Had he been in some desolate area where help could not or would not reach him in time he would eventually have fallen to his death, or to serious bodily injury quite possibly handicapping him for life.
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Ah .... thank you for pointing that out... I was pretty certain I was missing something ... but I still haven't had my morning coffee and it's almost lunch time ... yikes! So if he started to slip and grasped another ... he would be fried?

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Just because he believes God was in control doesn't mean God was.

What happened is certainly possible without God, so there is no need to invoke God to explain what happened.

Now, had he touched a live wire, been electrocuted, fallen to the ground, died and then rose from the dead the next day I might be searching for a more in-depth explanation.
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So if he started to slip and grasped another ... he would be fried?
Now I'm out of my depth on the subject. I think there's enough juice running through some of those lines to bridge (arc) small gaps, but I'm not certain just how large the gap could be before he'd be safe. In theory he could let go, drop a few feet and grab the next lower line and be safe (maybe).

But as the wise Homer Simpson said: "Communism works, in theory."
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Just because he believes God was in control doesn't mean God was.
What happened is certainly possible without God, so there is no need to invoke God to explain what happened.
I agree what happened is certainly possible without bringing God into the equation but if someone experiences something and they attribute that experience as Divine somehow then whats the problem?

Some people will look at something and say "yes that was God" while others will look at the same scenario and say "just a lucky break" but ultimately it makes little difference, people believe what they will. Now if an atheist had the same thing happened I somehow doubt that teenager would bothered that you *didn't* relate it to God.

atheist in foxhole you don't even believe in God so why would you care if he felt it was divine? If the same story happened and someone was thanking the great tomato troll for helping them hey more power to them...
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Now, had he touched a live wire, been electrocuted, fallen to the ground, died and then rose from the dead the next day I might be searching for a more in-depth explanation.
In regarding this scenario, For those who believe no explanation seems necessary. For those who don't believe no explanation seems possible.
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The person who had the experience believed "God is in control" how on earth can that be a negative thing? He may learn from the experience, wear a seatbelt, drive safer, but it certainly does not make it a bad thing that he believes God helped him.
Why would that necessarily teach him to wear his seatbelt or drive safer? If "God is in control", a seatbelt is irrelevant, since God will make sure that if he's flung from a car again, he'll catch some power lines, or land somewhere soft, or land on his feet just the right way.

If he's flung from his car and gets killed, was "God in control"? If he wears his seatbelt, and still gets killed, was "God in control"? If he wears his seatbelt, and does not get killed, was "God in control"?

If "God is in control" then the answer to all of those questions is Yes. So whether or not he gets killed, a seatbelt is irrelevant.

Conclusion: Seatbelts are irrelevant. Seatbelts are uncomfortable. Seatbelts are uncool. Therefore, no seatbelt is necessary.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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