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Godless Dave · 06-10-2002, 09:55 AM

I was assigned part of Genesis and all of Luke for two different high school English classes, and they were indeed treated like any other piece of literature. In fact, the class that assigned Genesis was "Myth and Modern Man" where we also read a Babylonian creation myth, among others.

gilly54 · 06-10-2002, 08:06 PM

Thank you, everyone for your suggestions. What a great group is here!

Godless Dave, I'm curious about the class you had, since you had to read the same Books. Can you elaborate?

Gilly

King Arthur · 06-11-2002, 02:35 AM

The Oxford Annotated Bible is the Christian New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) with notes. I think a big Oxford scholar by the name of Bruce Metzger had his hand in this translation though he too is a Christian.

Godless Dave · 06-11-2002, 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by gilly54:
<strong>Godless Dave, I'm curious about the class you had, since you had to read the same Books. Can you elaborate?
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Sorry, it was 15 years ago, so I don't remember much. All I remember from "Myth and Modern Man" was that the teacher was trying to say that "In the beginning" was a common theme in most mythology. The class also incorporated some of Joseph Campbell's ideas about myth.

I read the gospel of Luke in a different class altogether, AP English Literature. I didn't understand what the class was supposed to be about at the time, and I don't remember any of it now.

FaithNoMore · 06-11-2002, 05:44 AM

I heard the Gideon's Bible burns longer, but I could be wrong. Anyone do any research on this?

--FaithNoMore

Koyaanisqatsi · 06-11-2002, 07:54 AM

Tell her to read my version. It makes a hell of a lot more sense (the fuller version is <a href="http://www.hideinplainwebsite.com/Genesis%20Revisited.html" target="_blank">at my website</a>).

Here's Genesis 1:1-8 for a sample:

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1: In the beginning Thought created the mind and the earth.
2: And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Awareness of Thought moved upon the face of the waters.
3: And Thought said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4: And Thought saw the light, that it was good: and Thought divided the light from the darkness.
5: And Thought called the light Day, and the darkness It called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6: And Thought said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7: And Thought made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8: And Thought called the firmament Mind. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Jayman · 06-11-2002, 08:35 AM

I recommend the HarperCollins NRSV Study Bible. It is made by the Society of Biblical Literature. It was also endorsed by my college professor in a class covering the Hebrew Bible (OT). It's written in easy-to-read English and contains helpful notes from biblical scholars.

Rev. Joshua · 06-11-2002, 08:40 AM

The two best study bibles out there are the Harper Collins and the Oxford. Generally, I think the footnotes in the Harper Collins are a little more extensive than those in the Oxford; but the scholarship is sound in both.

I highly recommend the Revised English Bible (available in an Oxford edition) for readability. The New Revised Standard Version is also an excellent translation.

Both translations were done by mainstream scholars, and are generally reviled by fundamentalists.

Joshua

Godless Dave · 06-11-2002, 08:47 AM

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<strong>Both translations were done by mainstream scholars, and are generally reviled by fundamentalists.</strong>

Fundamentalists who probably can't read a word of Greek, let alone ancient Hebrew.

King Arthur · 06-11-2002, 02:52 PM

Get the New World Translation (NWT)! That'll raise some eyebrows!

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06-10-2002, 09:55 AM	#11
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	I was assigned part of Genesis and all of Luke for two different high school English classes, and they were indeed treated like any other piece of literature. In fact, the class that assigned Genesis was "Myth and Modern Man" where we also read a Babylonian creation myth, among others.

06-10-2002, 08:06 PM	#12
gilly54 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Almaden, California Posts: 917	Thank you, everyone for your suggestions. What a great group is here! Godless Dave, I'm curious about the class you had, since you had to read the same Books. Can you elaborate? Gilly

06-11-2002, 02:35 AM	#13
King Arthur Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Camelot Posts: 290	The Oxford Annotated Bible is the Christian New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) with notes. I think a big Oxford scholar by the name of Bruce Metzger had his hand in this translation though he too is a Christian.

06-11-2002, 05:44 AM	#15
FaithNoMore Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: GA Posts: 69	I heard the Gideon's Bible burns longer, but I could be wrong. Anyone do any research on this? --FaithNoMore

06-11-2002, 08:35 AM	#17
Jayman Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 68	I recommend the HarperCollins NRSV Study Bible. It is made by the Society of Biblical Literature. It was also endorsed by my college professor in a class covering the Hebrew Bible (OT). It's written in easy-to-read English and contains helpful notes from biblical scholars.

06-11-2002, 08:40 AM	#18
Rev. Joshua Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 63	The two best study bibles out there are the Harper Collins and the Oxford. Generally, I think the footnotes in the Harper Collins are a little more extensive than those in the Oxford; but the scholarship is sound in both. I highly recommend the Revised English Bible (available in an Oxford edition) for readability. The New Revised Standard Version is also an excellent translation. Both translations were done by mainstream scholars, and are generally reviled by fundamentalists. Joshua

06-11-2002, 02:52 PM	#20
King Arthur Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Camelot Posts: 290	Get the New World Translation (NWT)! That'll raise some eyebrows!

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