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KnightWhoSaysNi · 05-11-2003, 03:47 PM

Who was the most craziest or most obnoxious fundamentalist you've ever met? (either online or in person). Any story behind your encounter or any quotes?

Personally, the most bizarre and downright vicious fundamentalist I ever encountered was 8 years ago when I was on alt.atheism. His name was Sam Krishna and he claimed to be a Christian Reconstructionist (people who want to change the government to become a theocracy based on OT laws). At the time, I was briefly on Farrel Till's 'errancy' listserver and invited him on. He shocked everyone in the list, including myself, when he said this:

Quote:

Jason,

Let's get a couple of things straight (and at the risk of sounding fanatical) - neither I nor nor any of the other Christians nor you nor any of the other atheists have the right to disagree with God. You can make a claim to that right, but you cannot philosophically justify it b/c all human rights flow from Him (I don't expect you to understand that argument, either).

Second, I seriously doubt you would personally be put to death. If the laws were passed, you (and many others on this channel), would probably silence yourselves. The few that didn't would be executed, and then the wholesale blasphemy you and your kind commit would stop.

But if you were executed, you would deserve it. So would Farrel, so would Mike, so would Greg, and millions of others. So would I, and any other former blasphemers. That's the indictment the Bible makes against us all - but there is forgiveness in Christ. But there can be no forgiveness without a crime to forgive - and God, through His word, rightly indicts us all and brings an ethical lawsuit against us. The only way we can settly with God is through Christ.

That's a couple, isn't it?

Guess what? I'm not happy with the ethical code the Bible demands. I'm not happy knowing I have to work toward restoring a society where people like you would have to be executed. I would *love* to let people live and believe whatever they wanted. But they can't. God doesn't allow it. And he demands every Christian, including Gryph, Roger, and Adam, to go along along in making this ethical lawsuit against you and your kind. They may disagree with me. But you guys would probably join me in saying truth is not a majority opinion. There can be no truth apart from Christ.

-- from the 'errancy' archives, here:.

NonHomogenized · 05-11-2003, 05:46 PM

The craziest one I've met in RL is probably Gary, the "Willard Preacher". He's a hellfire-and-brimstone wanker who does his whining, er, preaching, outside the Willard Building (one of the major buildings in the middle of campus, here at PSU-UP), and has been doing so for many years, nearly every day. He's actually paid for this by one of the local churches (it's how he makes his living), though I'm not sure which, or how much they pay him.
He's a real nut.

As for online, I hang out in alt.atheism a fair bit, and I've seen any number of complete loonies. I have no idea which was the craziest, but, once you're in the caliber of some of the people who show up there, I don't think it matters anymore.

Cipher Girl · 05-11-2003, 05:47 PM

Hi Korihor

This scary individual sounds just like a co-worker I worked with several years ago. He seemed very emotionally unstable. During a conversation at work were we were talking about gay rights, he starting saying that gay people should be shot. He then continued with saying the next group to be killed would be atheists, knowing full well that I'm an atheist. I then said that I thought that people who went around saying such things are nothing but cowards.

He then stormed out for the afternoon. My co-workers (all guys) said I had "balls of steel". This individual stopped saying things like that to people at work for awhile. But this was overtaken by events of the Oklahoma City bombing a few weeks later. See my thread (page 3) Right Wing Christianity vs Nazism for more details.

What was really scary about my former co-worker was the fact he was always saying things like "our church will be a part of the new government" and "we have a lot of law enforcment people on our side".

trunks2k · 05-11-2003, 08:14 PM

Craziest fundamentalist I've ever met has to be Brother Stephen. Most people that go to college in Philadelphia probably know who I am talking about. This is insane, and very dramatic. He spent over a week preaching outside my school's cafe last year. Sometimes he was by himself, other times he was with a group of people holding some very offensive signs (pictures of aborted fetuses, signs saying that homosexuals should be put to death, etc). He is a very animated character. All of his preaching involves all these weird poses. He would say something like "Maddonna is going to spend an eternity in HEEEEELLLLLLLL FIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE! " and do a pose similar to "Mary Catharine Gallagher" (from Saturday Night Live) when she goes "SUPERSTAR!".

Psycho Economist · 05-11-2003, 09:38 PM

Well, I've never been introduced to the guy, but U of I has an intinerant bible thumper: Preacher Dan. He loves to shout at all the sorority "WHHHHOOOOORRRRRRRRRRESSS!!!!!" sunbathing on the quad in their bikinis. A general, all-around weirdo.

hezekiah jones · 05-11-2003, 10:51 PM

The goofiest bastard I've seen IRL is Pastor Chuck Spingola. I got to watch him get dragged away by cops from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee after he tried to slap a Democrat.

As for the online ones, I lost track a long time ago. When Excite's vplaces was running, Christian Chat was one of the funniest things ever.

Hedwig · 05-12-2003, 01:07 AM

Well, we have our own campus crusader for Christ that we have dubbed "Preacher Bob" (his real name is Gary and that's how I refer to him personally.) He calls the sorority girls and cheerleaders "whores" and even has a song written about the "whorish" cheerleaders that's a real hoot. He spins yarns about the evils of "Masturbating Marvin" and his girlfriend "Sinful Sarah." He shows up at Tulsa Gay Pride every year and out-preaches every single evangelical "fire and brimstone" protester we have. Even without a megaphone, his voice carries better than anyone else. I have a sneaky suspicion he used to be an actor. He has a very sweet wife who my friends and I have all commented would be very pretty if we took her shopping and dolled her up.

I have a soft spot in my heart for the skinny little nutjob, though. He is actually a perfectly nice man to talk to one on one. The first time I ever saw him preaching on campus I was a freshman and he stood out on the library lawn all day. I was concerned about him dehydrating (it was still early fall and very hot) so I bought him a bottle of water and brought it out to him when he was preaching to a lawn full of passer-bys who had stopped to listen (he's probably brought more diverse student groups together...atheist, pagan, Christian, conservative, liberal...than any campus-sponsored function.) Ever since then he's known who I am and even commented to me when he'd see me after one of his appearances that I hadn't shown up for "You missed your class!" He's even seen me two Gay Prides running and always says hello.

He claims he hasn't sinned since 1992 and that he can walk on water. To this day he's refused to show us his amazing Christ-like ability, though.

The attatchment is a picture of him at Tulsa Gay Pride 2002...notice how all the other protesters stay on the other side of the road while he strides right over the unofficial police line to chat with us on our own side of the street.

(Can you tell I'm genuinely fond of the guy...even though he's off his friggin' nut?

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05-11-2003, 05:46 PM	#2
NonHomogenized Veteran Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: no longer at IIDB Posts: 1,644	The craziest one I've met in RL is probably Gary, the "Willard Preacher". He's a hellfire-and-brimstone wanker who does his whining, er, preaching, outside the Willard Building (one of the major buildings in the middle of campus, here at PSU-UP), and has been doing so for many years, nearly every day. He's actually paid for this by one of the local churches (it's how he makes his living), though I'm not sure which, or how much they pay him. He's a real nut. As for online, I hang out in alt.atheism a fair bit, and I've seen any number of complete loonies. I have no idea which was the craziest, but, once you're in the caliber of some of the people who show up there, I don't think it matters anymore.

05-11-2003, 05:47 PM	#3
Cipher Girl Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sunny Southern California Posts: 657	Hi Korihor This scary individual sounds just like a co-worker I worked with several years ago. He seemed very emotionally unstable. During a conversation at work were we were talking about gay rights, he starting saying that gay people should be shot. He then continued with saying the next group to be killed would be atheists, knowing full well that I'm an atheist. I then said that I thought that people who went around saying such things are nothing but cowards. He then stormed out for the afternoon. My co-workers (all guys) said I had "balls of steel". This individual stopped saying things like that to people at work for awhile. But this was overtaken by events of the Oklahoma City bombing a few weeks later. See my thread (page 3) Right Wing Christianity vs Nazism for more details. What was really scary about my former co-worker was the fact he was always saying things like "our church will be a part of the new government" and "we have a lot of law enforcment people on our side".

05-11-2003, 08:14 PM	#4
trunks2k Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 6,997	Craziest fundamentalist I've ever met has to be Brother Stephen. Most people that go to college in Philadelphia probably know who I am talking about. This is insane, and very dramatic. He spent over a week preaching outside my school's cafe last year. Sometimes he was by himself, other times he was with a group of people holding some very offensive signs (pictures of aborted fetuses, signs saying that homosexuals should be put to death, etc). He is a very animated character. All of his preaching involves all these weird poses. He would say something like "Maddonna is going to spend an eternity in HEEEEELLLLLLLL FIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE! " and do a pose similar to "Mary Catharine Gallagher" (from Saturday Night Live) when she goes "SUPERSTAR!".

05-11-2003, 09:38 PM	#5
Psycho Economist Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 854	Well, I've never been introduced to the guy, but U of I has an intinerant bible thumper: Preacher Dan. He loves to shout at all the sorority "WHHHHOOOOORRRRRRRRRRESSS!!!!!" sunbathing on the quad in their bikinis. A general, all-around weirdo.

05-11-2003, 10:51 PM	#6
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	The goofiest bastard I've seen IRL is Pastor Chuck Spingola. I got to watch him get dragged away by cops from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee after he tried to slap a Democrat. As for the online ones, I lost track a long time ago. When Excite's vplaces was running, Christian Chat was one of the funniest things ever.

05-12-2003, 01:07 AM	#7
Hedwig Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,921	Well, we have our own campus crusader for Christ that we have dubbed "Preacher Bob" (his real name is Gary and that's how I refer to him personally.) He calls the sorority girls and cheerleaders "whores" and even has a song written about the "whorish" cheerleaders that's a real hoot. He spins yarns about the evils of "Masturbating Marvin" and his girlfriend "Sinful Sarah." He shows up at Tulsa Gay Pride every year and out-preaches every single evangelical "fire and brimstone" protester we have. Even without a megaphone, his voice carries better than anyone else. I have a sneaky suspicion he used to be an actor. He has a very sweet wife who my friends and I have all commented would be very pretty if we took her shopping and dolled her up. I have a soft spot in my heart for the skinny little nutjob, though. He is actually a perfectly nice man to talk to one on one. The first time I ever saw him preaching on campus I was a freshman and he stood out on the library lawn all day. I was concerned about him dehydrating (it was still early fall and very hot) so I bought him a bottle of water and brought it out to him when he was preaching to a lawn full of passer-bys who had stopped to listen (he's probably brought more diverse student groups together...atheist, pagan, Christian, conservative, liberal...than any campus-sponsored function.) Ever since then he's known who I am and even commented to me when he'd see me after one of his appearances that I hadn't shown up for "You missed your class!" He's even seen me two Gay Prides running and always says hello. He claims he hasn't sinned since 1992 and that he can walk on water. To this day he's refused to show us his amazing Christ-like ability, though. The attatchment is a picture of him at Tulsa Gay Pride 2002...notice how all the other protesters stay on the other side of the road while he strides right over the unofficial police line to chat with us on our own side of the street. (Can you tell I'm genuinely fond of the guy...even though he's off his friggin' nut? )

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