Loren Pechtel

Exactly. I consider those fish symbols warning signs.

PopeInTheWoods

How about Robert Courtney, the xian pharmacist who diluted his customers' (patients' ?) cancer medications so he would have enough money to donate to his church's building fund?

From another source:
Courtney has said he diluted the drugs for profit and because he owed thousands in taxes and church pledges.

And yet another source:
News reports cited a statement Courtney gave to prosecutors in which he blamed pressure to pay a $600,000 tax bill and the final one-third of a $1 million pledge to his church as a reason for diluting the drugs.

But he can still go to heaven if he's sorry enough, because he accepts jeebus as his personal lord and savior. So what if he caused others to die before they could accept the lawd?

Any xian sheep care to comment on this? Bush? Ashcroft? Bueller? Bueller?

Andy

PopeInTheWoods

Duplicate post, sorry.

Opera Nut

Here we have a prominent personal injury firm (Plaintiff's Lawyers) that advertise on TV and use specialized examples from the NT, such as Paul (I think) getting out of jail, saying things like "Paul used his knowlege of the law to his advantage". I'm assuming they had writs of habeas corpus in ancient times?? WTF??

When I first saw this I was appalled.

However, I know one of the partners from many years ago in trial at the courthouse. I reported & typed up the trial transcript on a case that he was plaintiff's counsel on. The case made new state law and was reported in the Southwestern Reporter(law books of new case law). It made new law about deceptive trade practices -- specifically the failure to disclose known prior defects in the sale of a used home.


He is a nice person and a good lawyer, BUT,

this is what I think is the clincher: He is NOT an ignorant fundie. He is a Presbyterian. To me that makes somewhat of a difference.

A)If I did not know this man's trial ethics personally; and he was B) a fundy just splashing his fishies around, I would be appalled.

Other than this example, I would NOT trust a business who is Christian.

Autonemesis

Yes, churches are widely known for bringing unethical businessmen in their midst to account.

As if "He's" going to do anything more than the churches to bring anyone to account for anything...

maddog

Amen to that, brother/sister(s)!

Gawdawful

This is a fact, I've never seen anything like it until I moved to Oklahoma three years ago. I, too, use it as a sign of a business to avoid.
I think the Reuters/Zogby poll showed only 49% of people WOULD vote for an atheist running for Prez; less than a majority. But having a majority doesn't matter though if you win the right states to win the electoral college votes and if one state comes up too close to call you have the Supreme Court hand it to you. --he said cynically...

Warren in Oklahoma

Chuck

I've recently had some dealings with a Christian businessman. See the thread I've been screwed.

The one upside is that if their behavior is unethical, I can put my righteous cap on and declare that they're perverting the word of our Lord and Savior JEBUS, er, Jesus, the Resurrected Son of JEHOVA, the Lamb of God, etc. etc.

Then they can chuckle while they put my money in the collection plate.

Chuk

Gawdawful

I lived in Utah and in areas where Utah television stations were all we got for about 20 years. There were many, many incidents of scam artists that took people for lots of money because people trusted them, after all, they were Mormon church members or even bishops or high church officials. I think religious people are no better than nonreligious people, maybe even worse. In fact in a poll of prison inmates that I read about five or six years ago, nonbelievers were far underrepresented in prison, less than 3%, compared to 10-14% in the general population at large, but Christians definitely met their percentage plus some.

What better way to gain someones confidence than to act like you're a member of their "club"? Confidence men. One of the most unethical businessmen I ever knew was a deacon in the local First Southern Baptist Church. Nice guy, unless you didn't do exactly what he wanted you to; then watch out.


Warren in Oklahoma

pariah

unfortunately, although this is true, the poll still shows the huge amount of intolerance that many americans have.