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River · 03-16-2003, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Fenton Mulley
I don't follow. What does mathematical probabilities have to do with your claim that there are "more fantastical episodes" in REAL human history than Jesus allegedly doing battle with this Dajjal character?

Mathematically speaking the Human race has beaten all odds and defied nature to evolve to this point...to the extent that it would be improbable, even ludicrous to explain the "human configuration". However, thats a whole 'nother philosophical debate. In terms of "fantastical episodes' -We have completed the Human Genome, Explored Space, on the verge of the Cloning Frontier..the invention of internet. Historically fantastical episodes can include the mysterious "Scythian" tribe that disappeared of the face of the planet as well as the uniqueness of Alexander the Great's army. However, many of the events I have described to you would appear as Majick or even nonsense had I mentioned them decades/centuries earlier. So, for some it would seem odd to see Caliph Jesus Christ battle the Dajjal, in modern times simply due to our "warped" sense of Time.

P.S The AntiChrist will be a poweful religio-political figure that will have only One eye (no eye in the right socket) and will arise from Khurasan( Afghanistan , according to Scripture). Jesus Christ will descend from Heaven, in Damascs, Syria and will slay the Tyrannical Dajjal in the Gate of the Ludd ( an Israeli airport is built there) some 10 miles from Tel Aviv.

John Page · 03-16-2003, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by River
The Claim that Jesus Christ (pbuh) is a Muslim or say, a Jew is much stronger than the claim that he was a Christian.

Irrelevant. According to historical record, Jesus of Nazareth was neither. Your suppositions rank alongside the claims of Jesus being the first catholic. He was, in fact, a Jew, a Hebe, a Kike, a Red Sea Pedestrian.....a post Socratic monotheistic moral philosopher.

Cheers, John

River · 03-16-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by John Page
Irrelevant. According to historical record, Jesus of Nazareth was neither. Your suppositions rank alongside the claims of Jesus being the first catholic. He was, in fact, a Jew, a Hebe, a Kike, a Red Sea Pedestrian.....a post Socratic monotheistic moral philosopher.

Cheers, John

Prophet Jesus Christ was a believer and thats all that matters in the end.

Reprobate · 03-16-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by River
Prophet Jesus Christ was a believer and thats all that matters in the end.

Wrong, he was not a believer. He was the Son of God. He knew this beyond a reasonable doubt. So he didn't 'believe', he knew.

River · 03-16-2003, 09:27 PM

You can say that he was the "metaphorical' son of G-d ,because he embodied much of the character of Prophet Adam who was the first man, However, he was not the son in a literal sense. The word "Jesus" is derived from Yehesua which translates to "Last Adam" or "Son of Adam", And thus Jesus said " I am the Alpha (Adam) and the Omega ( Last Adam)".

John Page · 03-17-2003, 04:47 AM

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Originally posted by River
Prophet Jesus Christ was a believer and thats all that matters in the end.

According to their popular song, so were the Monkees - were the Moslems?

Clivedurdle · 03-17-2003, 01:07 PM

Apologies if this site has been discussed before - there are other views about Islam

http://main.faithfreedom.org/

River · 03-17-2003, 02:21 PM

Thanks Clive, You're soo coool ! You are my hero.

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River Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3,680	You can say that he was the "metaphorical' son of G-d ,because he embodied much of the character of Prophet Adam who was the first man, However, he was not the son in a literal sense. The word "Jesus" is derived from Yehesua which translates to "Last Adam" or "Son of Adam", And thus Jesus said " I am the Alpha (Adam) and the Omega ( Last Adam)".

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Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	Apologies if this site has been discussed before - there are other views about Islam http://main.faithfreedom.org/

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River Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NY Posts: 3,680	Thanks Clive, You're soo coool ! You are my hero.

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