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12-22-2002, 07:19 PM | #11 | |
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What I am getting at is that the Word of God is personified in John 1:1 and in Revelation 19:13 but it is not Jesus. It is the He (the word) who created heaven and earth Psalm 33:6 By the word of God the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their host. John 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. Anyway all I wanted to know is whether anyone pursued this possibility. It may not lead anywhere. |
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12-23-2002, 08:08 AM | #12 | |
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In addition there is some hint in GJn of gnostic influence wherein the LOGOS is something akin to the Gnostic idea of the Sophia. And yes, since the Council of Nicaea in 325 it has been heresy to consider the LOGOS and the human Jesus as different entities. That is almost precisely what the heresy of Arianism was about. Jesus was a simple human man imbued with the spirit of god for a time but not actually god incarnate. The Ebionites and Xian Gnostics thought similarly. |
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Acts 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place where they had gathered together was shaken, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak the word of God with boldness. confirm that Jesus was simply the first to have received the spirit of God (at his baptism) started to speak the Word of God. In GJohn Jesus says more than once that his words and works are not his but he who abides in him (ie the Spirit of God). What I am getting at is that there may be a case for the Word being a different entity than Jesus based on the NT as we have it. Quote:
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12-23-2002, 05:52 PM | #14 | |
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