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Old 05-11-2003, 08:34 AM   #601
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I don't suppose rape and infanticide are unnatural either.
Rape and infanticide directly violate the rights of others. Homosexuality does not.

So your reply has failed to support your position.
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Old 05-11-2003, 08:41 AM   #602
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Rape and infanticide directly violate the rights of others. Homosexuality does not.

So your reply has failed to support your position.
Good then gays should support compulsory testing of kids for hiv in public schools. In fact what better way to show kids the risk of promiscuous sex, and what better way to deter anonymous sex than compulsory testing. Teachers wishing to set a good example woud naturally wish to volunteer.
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Good then gays should support compulsory testing of kids for hiv in public schools. In fact what better way to show kids the risk of promiscuous sex, and what better way to deter anonymous sex than compulsory testing. Teachers wishing to set a good example woud naturally wish to volunteer.
And every man should be considered a rapist until he proves he is not, reporting to the govt every 3 months...

And every parent should be considered a possible infanticide & watched closely until their child becomes adult, having to report to the govt every 3 months...

(3 months because that's the time it takes for the current test to pick up the HIV virus. You would have to test & re-test every 3 months to be sure someone didn't have HIV.)

BTW, most kids of high school age are likely to have straight sex, so even if you were to test them and discover a high level of HIV, it wouldn't prove anything about gays in general.

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Rape and infanticide directly violate the rights of others. Homosexuality does not.

So your reply has failed to support your position.
It wasn't meant to support my position, but to point out the intellectual bankruptcy of Mr. Bidstrup's thesis.
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Old 05-11-2003, 09:14 AM   #605
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It wasn't meant to support my position, but to point out the intellectual bankruptcy of Mr. Bidstrup's thesis.
Then you have failed to do so. For the same reason.

Apparently, you have no valid support for your position here.
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Old 05-11-2003, 09:30 AM   #606
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Good then gays should support compulsory testing of kids for hiv in public schools. In fact what better way to show kids the risk of promiscuous sex, and what better way to deter anonymous sex than compulsory testing. Teachers wishing to set a good example would naturally wish to volunteer.
Treacle Worshipper: And every man should be considered a rapist until he proves he is not, reporting to the govt every 3 months...
dk: I assume background checks are performed on people before given access to kids in public schools. This hardly amounts to an accusation.

Treacle Worshipper: And every parent should be considered a possible infanticide & watched closely until their child becomes adult, having to report to the govt every 3 months...
dk: I advocate for the nuclear family precisely because public schools have degenerated over the last 40 years. Kids need to be tested for hiv because of the crisis that exists in public schools. 40 years ago metal detectors, drug sniffing dogs, and armed hall guards would have been unthinkable. Times have changed.

Treacle Worshipper: (3 months because that's the time it takes for the current test to pick up the HIV virus. You would have to test & re-test every 3 months to be sure someone didn't have HIV.)
dk: I'd be interested in your source.

Treacle Worshipper: BTW, most kids of high school age are likely to have straight sex, so even if you were to test them and discover a high level of HIV, it wouldn't prove anything about gays in general.
dk: I’m not out to lynch gays, there are home tests now for a number stds. Why not do the tests in school, or better yet hand them out tom mom and dad at teacher/parent conferences to administer at home along with drug tests. See how accountability works.

What do gays have to fear?
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I advocate for the nuclear family precisely because public schools have degenerated over the last 40 years. Kids need to be tested for hiv because of the crisis that exists in public schools. 40 years ago metal detectors, drug sniffing dogs, and armed hall guards would have been unthinkable. Times have changed.
And you're blaming this on homosexuality?
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Then you have failed to do so. For the same reason.
You lost me.
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That's not difficult.
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And you're blaming this on homosexuality?
Blame? Are we two races or two species i.e. one hetero and one homo. Education has become a dumping ground for society's social ills. We know from the last 40 years that attempts to engineer a cure for social ills in public schools failed. The failure has left youth on the fringes of society more vulnerable than ever. The first step to accountability begins with transparency. We are 20+ years into the hiv/aids epidemic and without a backlash against homosexuals. The epidemic hasn't spread into the heterosexual community as once feared.
Code:
June 2000 HASR women ```. new cases ```````Cumulative
--------------------- . -----``````````` -------
Sex/w IDU ```````````` 1,059 ``````````` 20,093
Sex/w BiSexM ``````````` 174 ```````````` 3,465
Sex/w HIV+ transfusion `` 25``````````````` 585
Sex/w HIV+ hemophilia ````14``````````````` 413
---------------------  ------ ``````````` -------
Tot Hetero Sex 
minus sex w/ Unknown````` 1,272 ``````````` 24,556

Sex/w Unknown ````````` 2,842 ``````````` 25,701
Women IDU ```````````````` 2,795 ``````````` 51,592
Women Unknown Exposure ``` 3,420 ``````````` 19,042
There are 745,103 known AIDs Survivors, of which 7% are women. Of HIV+ women 40% were exposed heterosexually, and almost half anonymously. Almost half the HIV+ women were exposed anonymously. Surely public health requires compulsory tracking of who carries the virus.
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