pangloss

On "talkorigins bozos"...

Momma Dee Dee has said that if you provide evidence for an ad hominem it is OK. I asked a few times for evidence that talk origins participants are bozos. Never got a reply...

Sauron

Moved to new thread.

yxboom

I recognize some of you and to those who recognize the screen name, Hey! Free publicity

Sup Jimmy, real cute with the Safarti signature.
If you don't recognize the screen name my post will probably not matter to you anyway. I am not here to stir the pot nor do I have intention of derailing the thread, I got a link to this thread and was impressed by the transparency of some, let me stress some (and not all) the complaints that have been expressed so far. Namely Pangloss, one day you will look up at the banner here and notice the Darwin fish acting vulgarly with the Christian fish, the America the vengeful Christian nation banner and then you will need to decide if you are going to start a thread insisting that the owners of Internet Infidels resign because of the propaganda that is being forced on the participants. Consistency is what you are seeking right?

To the others, I don't spend much to no time in the science sections as that is the reason for delegating authorities so I offer this invitation to those who care to take me up on it, I will welcome a discussion of any issues you may like to have addressed with me personally in a civil manner of course. Keep in mind, lets try to be honest in our representation of events. If you choose not to than that is fine as well. If you who have a legit complaint outside of TheologyWeb admins rigging the Alumni votes, Pangloss being banned while he still remains fully able to post, Joe making an honest mistake when he had to click Proceed on the popup page that expressly stated the rules and guidelines for the ability to post in the Cosmogony 101 section and in turn sending multiple PMs begging to be reinstated and the site taking a turn for the worst in the last six months when the site is only 4 going on 5 months old feel free to express it, as I have never removed myself from discourse from participants. You may PM me at TheologyWeb with your concerns. If this is simply a device to whine and complain as it may very well be than I apologize for the interruption and feel free to continue as is, otherwise I am available for discussion.

Peace out.

pz

You'll have to explain the logic behind this comment a little better. Have people at theologyweb been complaining that there is a cross prominently displayed at the top of every page? Or have the secular web admins been forcing people to buy stuff from evolvefish.com?
Would that be Socrates-level "civility", or the kind of civility that well-adjusted people understand?

Duvenoy

Hi yxboom! Welcome to II! I hope you stay around for a while.

I've all but retired from Tweb, although I posted today. The reason is that it seems that all too many threads soon slide into the pits of back-biting, insults, and personal attacks. Dr. Sarfati can be considered the main impetus for this. What could be a great discussion board on Creation/Evolution seems to have become little more than shouting on one side, and snarling on the other, in spite of the evidence (or lack thereof). The mods ain't helping a whole lot, either.

I too, am guilty of the occasional snarl

Thinking about it, a board like this would always be contentious. But, common courtesy should prevail over all of our writings, should it not?

Anyhow, again, Welcome!

Edited to add: The Darwin fish on the rear window of my pick-'em-up truck ain't gettin' any. Here lately, neither am I.

doov

Jimmy Higgins

Thanks. I know its very immature of me, though I thought editting the moderator edit was rather clever, you guys need to secure up that a bit so people can't actually do that. Back on track, I'm just venting from a rather negative experience over there. None of the mods in the science area were really consistent regarding posting ethics. I've seen it before. I tried to converse intelligently, but you have posters over there that have no interest in debating, but just spouting out long ago disproven idealogy. Say whatever you want, any discourse given to Socrates was received sevenfold from Socrates prior to it. Socrates doesn't post respectfully with anyone with a differing opinion, especially in the field of sciences.

Dee Dee Warren showed great kindness as long as you didn't ask her to play fair. All we wanted was for Socrates to post intelligently and without disrespect. That never happened, on either fronts. TWeb will meet its end through Socrates aka Sarfati, who we all know is there, but for some reason you folks need to keep up the charade.

keyser_soze

I'm with PZ on this, this board is NOT responsible for the actions on other boards of people that are members of it. A bit hypocritcal coming from me(hey, all I did was point out that turkel was a prick...but I didn't mind getting banned, I was aiming for it). Boom, if you want to visit some fun stuff, spend some time in biblical criticism and archaeology...excellent forum, and with the exception of one troll, it's really good(You'll even see a lot of familiar faces). I'm saddened that vinnie is going on extended leave(I fear that his journey from HJ towards MJ might be responsible, he is after all asking a lot more questions that he used too...)

But I digress, The time frame seems longer, it feels like TW has been up over a year already, but where it was the best christian site during it's creation(I actually stopped going to CF and BB when it started up), it has gone DRASTICALLY downhill since sarfarti started getting in high gear. You don't see it, mainly because you are there every day, but the changes obvious to us from viewing it are so fast it's amazing. It is just so disappointing to see what was a great board going sinking from gaping holes in the hull. Why are WE disappointed? Because decent christian boards are pretty scare. We don't all go to debate, a lot of us go to spend time with old friends(since a majority of us WERE christians at one time or another), and to see the new apologetics. And it's like many sites that way, a couple of bad apples spoil the barrel, so to speak. Sarfarti and Turkel's attitude is spreading, and everyone can see it. Do you not see the difference? It's rubbing off. Oh well, sad to see it go the way of baptist board (I would say rapture ready, but those folks were so nuts from the beginning that it was amazing).

And Jimmy...man that WAS funny.

Kevbo

I'm missing out, what did Jimmy do?

keyser_soze

The mods edited his sig, so he edited the sig, and added "and socrates is sarfarti" to the end...It was truly funny...but they caught it pretty quick. I'm guessing sarfarti had a conniption when he saw it..

Jimmy Higgins

If that isn't a rhetorical question, I editted the moderator's editting of my signature. I added "oh and Socrates is Sarfati" to the moderated note. Once again TWeb is taking advantage of such action as they usually do.