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Arvel Joffi · 05-04-2003, 10:44 AM

I click on Hotmail to check my email - and I see this ad. Left Behind Series: Interpreting The Signs.

Puke.

Undercurrent · 05-04-2003, 12:18 PM

Wow! Today's news story is a portent of the soon-coming apocolype! There's something we haven't heard before -- except maybe for every day for the last twenty centuries.

dunadan · 05-04-2003, 12:47 PM

Anybody know how much money the people that wrote this crap have made, and what they've done with it??

Azathoth · 05-04-2003, 01:02 PM

I liked the series better when it was called The Omen.

Toto · 05-04-2003, 01:08 PM

Tim LaHaye lives a good live and also funds and organizes a lot of scary right wing groups. Read these two links and be very afraid.

The World of Tim LaHaye

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The financial rewards aren't bad either. The authors report that their bestsellers have earned each of them $10 million. LaHaye, consistently has novels on The New York Times and USA Today bestseller lists.

Americans United for Separation of Church and State on LaHaye

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LaHaye is a millionaire many times over. He and his wife, Beverly, have traveled far from Pumpkintown. They now live in an upscale community in Palm Springs, Calif., where gated mansions are tightly patrolled by a private security company.

Even before "Left Behind," LaHaye was making a comfortable living putting on church seminars, penning non-fiction books and running political organizations. As far back as 1981 he told the Los Angeles Times, "What�s wrong with making a good living? I don�t see that God puts any priority on poverty. I take all I have as a gift from God."

. . .

LaHaye was co-founder and first president of the Council for National Policy (CNP), a secretive umbrella group of far right leaders who meet regularly to plot strategy designed to advance a theocratic agenda. CNP activists have included Falwell, Pat Robertson, long-time right-wing strategist Paul Weyrich, the American Family Association�s Donald Wildmon, Focus on the Family�s James C. Dobson and former attorney general Edwin Meese. (Even R.J. Rushdoony, the now-deceased dean of the radical Christian Reconstructionist movement, was a member.)

The CNP is also rife with wealthy far-right business executives and influential Washington ultra-conservatives. The group remains powerful in the Republican Party to this day. During the 2000 campaign, its members summoned George W. Bush to a closed-door meeting, where the future president had to assure the organization that he was a true conservative.

. . .

In 1983, LaHaye opened the American Coalition for Traditional Values (ACTV � pronounced "active."). The group, which drew support from powerful religious broadcasters and other right-wing church leaders, pledged to mobilize "Christian" voters to elect ultra-conservative candidates to public office. LaHaye called President Ronald Reagan a friend and asserted in a 1985 interview with Church & State that Reagan�s election in 1980 and reelection four years later had been engineered by God.

. . .

LaHaye was also damaged by revelations that he had accepted money from the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, the controversial Korean evangelist. Bo Hi Pak, a longtime Moon operative, gave ACTV $10,000, and LaHaye subsequently agreed to serve on the board of directors of Moon�s own Religious Right group, Christian Voice. . . .

Mods - you could bump this topic to Politics or Church State Separation if you want (if the originator agrees.)

livius drusus · 05-04-2003, 01:50 PM

Arvel, what say you about a forum shift? It could fit lots of places: PD, M&PC, CSS, GRD depending of what kind of focus you want. Or even in E if you want it to have more of a wry quip ethos.

Josie M · 05-05-2003, 01:12 PM

*sputtering with laughter* The UN...apolcalypse...ATMs *hysterical laughter* you mean people actually believe this stuff?!? Seriously, when I read that, I laughed so hard I cried. The human race needs help.

Josie

Kim o' the Concrete Jungle · 05-05-2003, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Toto
Even before "Left Behind," LaHaye was making a comfortable living putting on church seminars, penning non-fiction books and running political organizations. As far back as 1981 he told the Los Angeles Times, "What�s wrong with making a good living? I don�t see that God puts any priority on poverty. I take all I have as a gift from God."

And Jesus said, Blessed are the fat rich bastards, for they will bludgeon the earth into submission.

everlastingtongue · 05-05-2003, 05:38 PM

You really should do yourself a favor and at least take a peek at the message boards there.

So far, I�ve learned that the anti-christ will definitely be a homosexual and that he might be Tony Blair�though both points are still under discussion. Also, apparently some �famous� evangelists have seen visions of a female president, assumed to be Hillary Clinton (of course elected by millions of illegal aliens), right before the coming nuclear war.

Fun reading.

Toto · 05-05-2003, 06:10 PM

www.morons.org features Mrs. LaHaye's Concerned Women of America:

http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=2&id=3208

They have noticed, as I have, how often the spokesperson for CWA is male.

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Arvel Joffi Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,359	Stupid ad for zealotry on Hotmail I click on Hotmail to check my email - and I see this ad. Left Behind Series: Interpreting The Signs. Puke.

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05-04-2003, 12:18 PM	#2
Undercurrent Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 2,362	Wow! Today's news story is a portent of the soon-coming apocolype! There's something we haven't heard before -- except maybe for every day for the last twenty centuries.

05-04-2003, 12:47 PM	#3
dunadan Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 499	Anybody know how much money the people that wrote this crap have made, and what they've done with it??

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Azathoth Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The centre of infinity Posts: 1,181	I liked the series better when it was called The Omen.

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livius drusus Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Selva Oscura Posts: 4,120	Arvel, what say you about a forum shift? It could fit lots of places: PD, M&PC, CSS, GRD depending of what kind of focus you want. Or even in E if you want it to have more of a wry quip ethos.

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Josie M Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wisconsin sometimes, Bryn Mawr sometimes. Posts: 184	sputtering with laughter The UN...apolcalypse...ATMs hysterical laughter you mean people actually believe this stuff?!? Seriously, when I read that, I laughed so hard I cried. The human race needs help. Josie

05-05-2003, 05:38 PM	#9
everlastingtongue Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location Posts: 398	You really should do yourself a favor and at least take a peek at the message boards there. So far, I�ve learned that the anti-christ will definitely be a homosexual and that he might be Tony Blair�though both points are still under discussion. Also, apparently some �famous� evangelists have seen visions of a female president, assumed to be Hillary Clinton (of course elected by millions of illegal aliens), right before the coming nuclear war. Fun reading.

05-05-2003, 06:10 PM	#10
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	www.morons.org features Mrs. LaHaye's Concerned Women of America: http://web.morons.org/article.jsp?sectionid=2&id=3208 They have noticed, as I have, how often the spokesperson for CWA is male.

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