Celsus

Hi Beyelzu,

I don't think there's a single person here agreeing with Blue Metal's actions. They have already been dealt with in those links. She has been punished, and in some respects got off lightly, but it's also important to give people a second chance. As you can see, continuously condemning someone is not productive, whether it is Sakpo or Blue Metal or whoever it is in question. Don't mistake disagreement with condemnation.

Joel

Ronin

The end effect of sakpo's decision to exploit a support forum to act on his 'moral' perspective has had an obvious chilling effect on this board.

To date, many of us have enjoyed some rather open and honest discussions.

This act is an example of what happens when freethinkers become *too* free with their thoughts even when they feel they are in need of support.

Someone once inquired why many here are reticent about posting their personal data information.

Well, here is a perfect example of what may occur when one feels too comfortable around those on a community of considered friends.

It really does not pay to seek solace on the internet. For, despite our perceived invulnerability, there are those like sakpo out there to reduce our trust to ice cold fear.

So, reader and writer beware ~ censor yourselves diligently.

You just never know when there is an eye out there of a particular mindset that may act on their own *moral* perspective regarding any type of illicit behavior.

Sakpo

Seems a bit early to say what the "end effect" has been. If I reminded people they're writing things down in public, good.

And I don't see why that will end over this.

Need of support, bullshit. Need of chumps to try to practice lies on. Plagiarism is a public issue, I see no reason why my particular action would cause people to worry about genuinely asking for support, as long as they aren't obviously using a thread to prepare for misdeeds. Of course, it might well do to remind people this is a public place (as your thread does quite rightly).

Right. Except that his wasn't some poor soul coming for help, it was somebody clearly attempting to prepare, in public, to lie to protect themselves after a theft.



Strong and worthwhile point here. People shouldn't post things they don't want the world to know for the world to see on the internet. That thread is an excellent example. If you picked that page because of my post, let's see what I admit to:

-sitting on a public bench not doing anything wrong
-not being in a car with some pot users

Others admit to or imply they've done far more serious things. Not neccesarily smart.

I don't know why I need to be cast as a villain here. Do people always need villains when they realize something that upsets them (like stuff available for anyone to see on the internet isn't private) ?

Ronin

As all can see ~ sakpo has fervently made the point of my post even more significant.

beyelzu

again, blue metal betrayed our trust by lying to us. this unwritten privacy rule is that everyone feels was broken, was part of that trust. she broke. she lied. not sakpo. consequences and actions. ronin, you and i have been over this before. i think that it is interesting still that nobody considers blue metal lying to be a breach of trust.

beyelzu

or rather, no one seems to care about that bm's breach of trust.

Celsus

Beyelzu,

Horse. Dead. Flogging. Stop.

Respectfully,
Joel

beyelzu

celsus,

if anyone made a single response to any of my posts that have all made the same point in this thread and which have been completely ignored by everyone all set to lynch sakpo. i would be glad to quit driving the point home. but if no one responds, maybe there is no response and everyone's moral indignation is just melodrama.


respectfully,

beyelzu

Sakpo

I strongly agree with the point about not assuming privacy when you post words for the world to read on the internet from an account with user info that can easily identify you. Even if your user info doesn't readily identify you you ought to remain aware your real identity can be figured out if someone wants to do so. I don't agree that people can't open up or be honest, but they do need to be careful. If they weren't before they should be now. I did not act maliciously but others easily could.

Celsus

Hi Beyelzu,
Joel