Mav

Had this picture been part of a movie, most of you would not have posted about it making you ill. Real life pictures stop and make you think about what happened before the picture was taken, and what happened after. Real Life is sometimes not all that nice to look at with out those rose colored glasses.
I don't know Amie to well, cause I'm new. I have to guess that she was happy at the sight of life fighting to live, as the story leads us to beleave. I do not think Amie was sitting there thinking...."Hummm I bet if I put this picture up, I can cause massive involintary personal protien spills to take place"

After looking at the picture, and reading the story with it, I think the pro-life gang was using this to stir up feelings twards there side.

Feel those feelings..... As you read on, I see alot of talk about should they take the risk or just start over. Looking at all the quotes made of the mother, we see her really wanting this child.


See the conflict in these 2 quotes.....if their religion does not give them options, where did all the guilt come from? They had no say in the matter. Did the big guy want this child to come out that way or did that Apple of Free Will and Knowledge kicked in again.
You pick.... and whats a foetus?

Treacle Worshipper

What intrigues me about this story is how they managed to break the waters to do the operation without causing a miscarriage. Does anyone know how they managed that? The article didn't seem to go into detail.
TW

Corona688

Where'd Amie go? Don't tell me she posted-and-ran...

Infinity Lover

Yeah, why anyone would not jump with joy to hang out with this friendly little bunch is quite beyond me.

lunachick

Infinity! You know I like Amie, and you. But, be honest - the posting of this pic and article in the manner it was posted does seem a little underhanded, don't you agree?

Had Amie's op stated more about what she liked about this pic and the accompanying article, and given a much clearer indication of her motives at posting this, then no problem. But, that is not what has happened here. Are you surprised by people's reactions? I've been very surprised by peoples reactions in other "Amie threads", but not in this one. I appreciate you have an emotional loyalty to her, and I commend you on the strength and open honesty of your feelings for her; but the way this thread came about was less than honest, and showed little integrity. It was an emotionally manipulative thread that was bound to backfire. I mean, come on, even you must agree with that a little bit, surely?!

Daggah

Amie could tell us all to go fuck off and die in as painful a manner as possible, and you'd be here defending her. We all know it, so let's stop pretending.

I think someone is whipped...and I don't mean in the good BDSM way, either.

Linda

This thread is being moved to an upper forum.

Infinity Lover

Luna, I'm not saying people don't have a point or that I can't appreciate their opinions, I am saying some are being complete dicks about it and that's something I can't sympathize with.

If you're turned off by having a pie shoved in your face, that does not mean you wouldn't enjoy a piece of cake served on a plate with a fork. And if the former happened to me, I'd leave the restaurant without leaving a tip for the chef as well.

And I feel absolutely confident in saying, that the people who were complaining the loudest about Amie being careless towards people's feelings, are often insensitive dorks when it comes to how they express their thoughts.

I've seen people comment on how someone alledgedly cowards out of an argument, without even considering to acknowledge that some people being a-holes about stating their case just might have something to do with it, on several occasions. So if you're asking me if I'm surprised by the responses... not at all.

And as far as your assumption of alterial motives or manipulative intent goes. Amie never said anything about her views on the article, she only said she liked the picture. Did it ever occur to you, that she's a biology teacher, and a registered nurse, and someone with very strong maternal instincts to boot, and that just might have something to do with her liking that photo? And the article, besides it's 'political agenda' also happens to explain what it's a picture of. If Amie wanted to start a thread on abortion, she would've done so. In fact she did... on another board; she's kinda fed up with the overall de-constructive vibe at IIDB...

And Daggah; if sticking up for the person you love equals being whipped, then I hope you and your 'integrity' are gonna be very happy together.

dangin

All the early in utero procedures failed and led to an immediate C section of the child. But then some smart doc said, instead of making a straight cut in there, lets cut the first layer of tissue, retract it, make the next cut in an offset location from the first, retract it, make the third cut in an offset location again and so on. The zigzag approach allows the docs to close up the mother and have the sutures hold. I don't know how they keep the sac filled with fluid or if they refill it or what.

But once again. This is just another great example of man correcting god's (nature's really) indifference. And as to an abortion argument, who was really dumb enough to think that embryos don't move? It doesn't change the reality of the mother's rights outweighing the rights of the wee little parasite inside her.

Mav

The picture = pie. We were mislead and had the picture shoved in our face. Had the
picture had a warning, it would have been cake.
I could not have said it better IL. What better way to get people to look at something
you have very strong feelings about then to paint a nice lead in.

Well....you just gave us motive and intent...I think you had better stop tring to save her. I don't think she can take much more of your
savings. Love is standing by the one you love, does not mean you have to agree with them
every step of the way.

Heres you a pair of Rose Colored Glasses.