lpetrich

That's from God's "who do you think you are?" speech to Job in the book of that name.

Coragyps

Not just foundations, but pillars as well. (I Sam 2:8). I hope they're big strong sumbitches, too......

Dr Rick

They're not very stable; they quiver when God's pissed and breathes fire and smoke:
Rick

hologos

To find out who the "us" might be, study the word ELOHIM. Hence the tri-unity or three in one. Man is made in the image of God--he too is three in one: mind, material and spirit. The "us" refers to the plurality or multiple personages of the creator of the universe. How does one demonstrate such a notion in the physical world? It is not possible to do so adequately. One might consider the experiment of putting a block of ice in a pot of boiling water--it is possible to observe the same elemental forms of water--solid, liquid and gas simultaneously.
To deny a creator, simply because we cannot describe Him is not sufficient justification on our part. And it requires no small amount of arrogance on our part to demand that He "prove" himself on our terms. He has said plainly that there is sufficient evidence from "the things that are made' so that we are without excuse. Ref: Book of Romans, Chapter 1.

Shalom

Dr Rick

The terrorists were following their superstitious god-beliefs and attempting to evolve into martyrs.

Rick

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Albion

To go back to the original question, I asked somone for names after an assertion that there are many great scientists who believe in creationism, and he came up with three, one of which I forget but the other two were William Dembski and Ken Ham. Great scientists! Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or weep.

lpetrich

Note: "ho logos" means "the word" in Greek, as in John 1:1, "In the Beginning was the Word".

The traditional dogma on this subject is that we are combinations of body and mind/soul -- mind/body dualism. Why three instead of two parts?

And why stop at three? Why not more? What would help us decide how many?

Also, two of the Persons of the Christian Trinity make one wonder where the Mother and the Daughter are.

However, that is an unstable state. In fairness, many three-phase substances have a "triple point", where solid, liquid, and gas coexist. There are similar sorts of points for substances that exist in more than three phases.

Beside the point. Why not ask why one considers Zeus or Odin or Marduk or Amon-Ra or Quetzalcoatl to be pure fiction?

That itself is a very haughty attitude. An omnipotent being who goes off and hides somewhere has no good reason to complain about those who question Its existence.

HRG

Perhaps because it is actually inconsistent ?

Before a creator can be denied, first there has to be at least a preponderance of objective evidence that said creator exists.
As far as we know objectively, those are the words of a certain Saulus of Tarsus, not of any divine entity. He was wrong.

HRG.

Starboy

Greetings hologos,

It is the evolution of religion in action in the environment of mankind and 9-11 was another round of survival of the fittest. Makes you wonder when religious man will become extinct. I only hope that he doesn’t take the rest of us with him.

Starboy

ex-robot

<a href="http://www.icr.org/creationscientists.html" target="_blank">Creation Scientists</a>
No, I criticize any side that believes because so and so said so. Examining and researching what they say and then making a decision is a much better way to go.
The above has been refuted.
huh? Looking at their work and research is a far cry from blindly accepting what they say on either side.
I forgot that paleobiology, molecular biology, genetics, geology, paleontology, and other sciences have nothing to do with evolution, and no "evolutionary" biologist ever speaks of such things.
You mean the list that you wanted a link to above? You obviously haven't read all of it. Anyways, it says nothing considering the list's purpose is to answer false claims, etc.

xr