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Old 01-30-2003, 04:34 PM   #21
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Both doctors said their beliefs that demonic possession cause disease have never negatively affected their practices, and Gaye said he is a more compassionate doctor because of his beliefs.
And these guys are putting their dirty paws inside of people? Oh, maybe they wash up real good as part of a ritual honoring the Greek Goddess Hygeia. I kind of hate to think how they treat depression and scizophrenia, though...

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Old 01-30-2003, 10:33 PM   #22
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I wrote the professor a letter of support, saying the student obviously didn't have a clue as to what scientific method and thought was and included a quote by Carl Sagan, who said in his book "Demon Haunted World":

"Science is a bulwark against mysticism, against superstition, against religion misapplied to where it has no business being."

Right on, Professors.
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Professor rigid on the cause of disease

Tommy Totone was OK with learning that germs cause disease in college, but his family drew the line when his belief in the theory became a prerequisite for continuing his education.

Jim Totone said his son left Lubbock State this semester and enrolled in Lubbock College for Jesus after encountering the policy of one associate professor in biological sciences.

Professor James Buffet's Web site states that a student must "truthfully and forth rightly" believe that germs cause disease to receive a letter of recommendation from him.
You write this as a joke....

A few months ago, I engaged a pair of "legally, there is no evidence for evolution" types on a board out of - little surprise - Florida.

In one post, one of the pair, who claimed to have a master's degree in chemistry, chided me, saying that I also still "probably believe the myth that germs cause disease."

I aksed him what DID cause disease, and I got the run around - some schtick about it never "being proved in court" or some such BS.

I am now of the mind that when dealing with creationists, instead of assuming that they might be intelligent and scientifically literate, just deluded or perhaps underducated in the appropriate science, that instead they should be considered brainwashed dolts.

But hey, thats just me

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In one post, one of the pair, who claimed to have a master's degree in chemistry, chided me, saying that I also still "probably believe the myth that germs cause disease."
If it had been a science board, I'd say he was trying to be a chemistry-chauvanist. I can't imagine a chemistry-chauvanist argument, but I can see a biophysicist saying "Germs are made up of molecules and it's the molecules, interfering with other molecules indigenous to the body that brings about disease," or some such forrest / trees nonsense to make himself feel good about his field of study.

But, alas, it was not a science board.
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Rufus – Don’t besmirch Marvin Gaye’s good name like that.

Happy W. – Do you have any quick links about the ritual washing of Hygeia? I got into with a particularly wacko creato a couple months ago. He/she claimed the part in Numbers that talks about blood being unclean and washing hands in running water proved the Bible was from god since Noah didn’t know about germs.

I figured there had to be similar material in most cultural traditions, but I was trying to focus on some other ideas.
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I'd like to think the recommendations I got from my engineering professors and religion studies professor were based on their view of my character and ability to be a professional, not because it was routine! The recommendations my engineering teachers gave me needed to come from teachers that thought that I'd be worth a Master's degree in Civil Engineering. That I'd be a competant professional. You just don't give master degrees to people in the fields of engineering and medicine, it can be dangerous! People's lives are in the balance.

If one of my professors didn't think I was capable of becoming a competant professional, I wouldn't have gone crying about it. They are the professionals of a critical profession. Recommendations shouldn't be taken lightly.

And this is ignoring the obvious point. This person's denial of evolution is equivalent to a history major's denial of the holocaust. I am proud that Texas Tech is holding out. It is their right to do so.
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How do those morons explain the success of vaccines and antibiotics in preventing and eradicating disease? What more proof could you ever ask for? Maybe demons don't like the flavor of the vaccines and antibiotics?
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16/64 = 1/4.

Any common person can see all you need to do is cancel out the 6s, not go through that godless factoring that the evil secular mathematicians think is what really works.

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How do those morons explain the success of vaccines and antibiotics in preventing and eradicating disease? What more proof could you ever ask for? Maybe demons don't like the flavor of the vaccines and antibiotics?
That's just variation. It's still bacteria or it's still a virus. You don't see a bacteria turning into a dog. :banghead: :boohoo:
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That's just variation. It's still bacteria or it's still a virus. You don't see a bacteria turning into a dog. :banghead: :boohoo:
The relevance of this snippet of idocy escapes me in the context into which it has been put.

Can I have some of whatever it is you're smoking?
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