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Old 01-30-2003, 02:55 AM   #31
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LoTR: The Two Towers: During the Helm's Deep battle sequence. A group of Orcs rush in and place a giant bomb inside the water drain located in the center bottom of the massive wall. After this, a torch-carrying orc sprints to kamikazie and detonate the wall. As the torch runner is running, Legolas pelts the orc with several arrows, but this does not succeed in putting down the orc. Which I think is totally silly, since in every other part of the film, it only takes one arrow from Legolas to destroy an enemy. [/B]
and on that note, the orcs which ran into the hole and placed the bomb would have to have been dwarfs <although they were clearly the same size> because there was a shot earlier of that grate next to some rats. Either the grate suddenly got bigger, or some architect was stupid enough to make the hole on the outside man-sized.

but, Star Wars, one of the newer crap ones, i dont remember which offhand. Everytime they had an establishing scene of a desert/city/geographical location there was always 2-3 animals fighting/eating/doing something. In every single one. I noticed it at the time, and although it makes sense, i still found it stupid. And they were always placed in the bottom right of the shot as well.
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Duck, that was my thought exactly when watching the Matrix. "If they'd of used cows instead of humans, none of this BS would be necessary!"
I figured it had nothing to do with what what was efficient and practical: the computers did this because they were a vengeful bunch!
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I'm no rocket scientist, but the line in Star Wars (paraphrased) "I made the (something) run in 12 parsecs" bugged the crap out of me.

A PARSEC IS A MEASURE OF LENGTH NOT TIME!

Now, since I'm not a rocket scientist, and haven't seen the movie in quite some time, I probably got this all wrong!
You got the quote right. But there's not really a problem with it. See, in GR time is measured in meters (and a parsec is just heaps and gobs of meters stacked end to end).

There. How's that for patching up Lucas' gaping error?
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I'm not passing sentence on the science of The Matrix until I see the two sequels this year. I don't think Morpheus has all the info on exactly what's going on and why. I'm hoping for something impressively clever from the Wachowski brothers.

But even if they don't deliver on that front, I'll still watch and love the movies. They're worth it for the style, if nothing else.
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-The fact that people call it "nos"

That's the name of one of the leading companies who make NO2 products, Nitrous Oxide Systems. What's wrong with calling it giggle gas or nitrous or go juice?

Thank you for this! I always thought it came from NO2 read as NOZ, and I wondered why it wasn't nozzzzzzz instead of noss (hard S). I thought the ignorant people I heard it from thought the formula was actually NO5.

I never actually used it for a car. heehee.

Don't get me started on the Matrix. I also really wanted to like that movie.

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You got the quote right. But there's not really a problem with it. See, in GR time is measured in meters (and a parsec is just heaps and gobs of meters stacked end to end).

There. How's that for patching up Lucas' gaping error?
Maybe in a universe where life is bound by a mystical FORCE, physics and terminology are a bit different.

Or maybe Lucas just thought it sounded cool. Like Jar Jar Binks.
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LoTR: The Two Towers: During the Helm's Deep battle sequence. A group of Orcs rush in and place a giant bomb inside the water drain located in the center bottom of the massive wall. After this, a torch-carrying orc sprints to kamikazie and detonate the wall. As the torch runner is running, Legolas pelts the orc with several arrows, but this does not succeed in putting down the orc. Which I think is totally silly, since in every other part of the film, it only takes one arrow from Legolas to destroy an enemy.
What is even worse is that the orcs that placed the bombs had torches in their hands already. There was no need for some arbitrary suicide runner. But you're right Legolas could have easilly got a head shot.
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Perhaps we'll learn in subsequent sequels that the "power plant" hypothesis is wrong. Why should any information about what the Machine really needs be correct?

I rather favor the "Servants Out of Control" concept -- Man creates Machine to take care of every need. Machine obeys too well.
That's the most plausible explanation I've heard yet. It may be that the humans are an integral part of the power system, but that's because the entire operation was built for their benefit. Maybe the machines have changed over time, but are unable to extricate the humans from their power system. Maybe the machines forgot about why the humans are there. Maybe it's a ripoff of Star Trek's "The Changeling" and Neo will confront a robot that calls itself Nomad that was formed when an alien spacecraft crashed and its onboard computer merged with the wordwide computer net. Maybe Neo will cause Nomad to go into an infinite loop and destroy itself by invoking a logical contradiction.
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Perhaps we'll learn in subsequent sequels that the "power plant" hypothesis is wrong. Why should any information about what the Machine really needs be correct?

I rather favor the "Servants Out of Control" concept -- Man creates Machine to take care of every need. Machine obeys too well.
Perhaps, but how does this fit with Agent Smith's rant against all things human whilst interrogating Morpheus?
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In defense of the Matrix

The energy from humans bugged me, but I always comforted myself with the idea that the humans, loosing the war with the machines, could have subverted machine resources to stay alive by hacking the singular AI and writing some bad code into its resource management logic.
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