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GeoTheo · 07-18-2002, 08:11 AM

I rest my case.

Mageth · 07-18-2002, 08:13 AM

I move for dismissal for lack of evidence.

[ July 18, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]

GeoTheo · 07-18-2002, 08:20 AM

You take a go at it then. How could life have a supernatural origin?

seanie · 07-18-2002, 08:22 AM

It was sneezed out by a gigantic stellar goat.

An omnipotent stellar goat mind you.

Kevin Dorner · 07-18-2002, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by GeoTheo:
Life.

First, you have to establish what is "alive" and what is not. What is your definition of "life" so that we can determine whether it requires supernatural intervention to start it.

Where do you draw the boundary between living and non-living things? The most obvious examples of an ambiguous placement (could be living or non-living depending on your definition) are viruses.

Mageth · 07-18-2002, 08:23 AM

I don't claim that it does. What's your point?

GeoTheo · 07-18-2002, 08:37 AM

Do you mean "I don't claim that it does." Or "I don't claim that it could."?
You said Life itself does not neccesarily prove life has a natural orign. I am asking you how could it have a supernatural one? If that's truly one of the two choices how do you know its a choice? Explain how life could have a supernatural origin. If you can't then there is only one choice.

seanie · 07-18-2002, 08:41 AM

What are you on about? You're getting more and more surreal.

GeoTheo · 07-18-2002, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kevin Dorner:


First, you have to establish what is "alive" and what is not. What is your definition of "life" so that we can determine whether it requires supernatural intervention to start it.

Where do you draw the boundary between living and non-living things? The most obvious examples of an ambiguous placement (could be living or non-living depending on your definition) are viruses.

Are you saying there is an infinite gradient between life and non-life so that no such distinction exists? Kind of like the mathametician that kept dividing the distance between to points by two?

GeoTheo · 07-18-2002, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by seanie:
What are you on about? You're getting more and more surreal.

You may be experiencing a paradigm shift. Don't fight it. enjoy the ride.

07-18-2002, 08:13 AM	#22
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	I move for dismissal for lack of evidence. [ July 18, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]</p>

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07-18-2002, 08:11 AM	#21
GeoTheo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bemidji Posts: 1,197	I rest my case.

07-18-2002, 08:20 AM	#23
GeoTheo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bemidji Posts: 1,197	You take a go at it then. How could life have a supernatural origin?

07-18-2002, 08:22 AM	#24
seanie Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edinburgh. Scotland Posts: 2,532	It was sneezed out by a gigantic stellar goat. An omnipotent stellar goat mind you.

07-18-2002, 08:23 AM	#26
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	I don't claim that it does. What's your point?

07-18-2002, 08:37 AM	#27
GeoTheo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bemidji Posts: 1,197	Do you mean "I don't claim that it does." Or "I don't claim that it could."? You said Life itself does not neccesarily prove life has a natural orign. I am asking you how could it have a supernatural one? If that's truly one of the two choices how do you know its a choice? Explain how life could have a supernatural origin. If you can't then there is only one choice.

07-18-2002, 08:41 AM	#28
seanie Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Edinburgh. Scotland Posts: 2,532	What are you on about? You're getting more and more surreal.

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