Jimmy Higgins

Was I the only person that had a hard time going to sleep after seeing both of these finales? It may have been independant, but for some reason, it was very hard to sleep last night.

DarkBronzePlant

On the contrary, I went to bed almost right after the two finales. Partly because I had hardly gotten any sleep the night before (not related to the upcoming finales) and partly because I didn't want to stay up and be bummed that the two best shows of the season were over, one of them for good.

ksagnostic

I was sure bummed about Palmer.

Overall, I was happy with the way Buffy ended.

I almost always have trouble getting to sleep.

Jimmy Higgins

It wasn't that he died, its how. That spooked me.
I think when that geeky girl got killed and fell to the ground, that was just creepy to me. Sure, Anya getting sliced in half was alright but that other one just spooked me.

Grumpy

I conked right out this morning after watching the 24 finale -- which I taped, then watched along with the whole season starting yesterday. Naturally, I was ready for some shut-eye by 8 a.m.

I found the final twist ridiculous. The Bad Guys' plan A, from bombing CTU to forging the Cyprus audio, failed at the final moment. So what elaborate scheme do they have for Plan B? Have a single assassin kill Palmer.

It's like Star Trek 6, when the first assassination involved conspirators, prototype Birds of Prey, etc. For the second one, it's just a guy with a scoped rifle in a window.

For that matter, the first season of 24 had a needlessly elaborate plot -- starting with the destruction of an airliner to obtain a phony ID.

The final minutes before 8 a.m. could've been spent on other lingering plot threads: is Nina's pardon still valid? Did Lynne survive her critical injuries from falling down the stairs? Will one of the unnamed "Mideast Countries" retaliate for the murder of their ambassador in the helicopter crash? Will the little girl, Megan, ever forgive Kim for making her an orphan? Will Jack be prosecuted for killing & beheading a witness in protective custody? And why was Palmer's cabinet so white?

I'd like to know.

Calzaer

That's just good evil villian planning, right there. You always need a backup plan. The more time you spend on your primary plan, the less time you have to spend on your backup plan.

If your hideously complex primary plan works, it's an amazing spectacle, like that Honda commercial. But there are so many places it can go wrong that you really need a very simple, easy-to-set-up backup plan. Your goal will still be achieved, just without as much nifty fanfare.

Further, a hideously complex plan will stall the heroes for an amount of time that is directly proportional to the plan's convolutedness. They have to dig through all that crap... and by the time they'd figured out you were behind it and you have another plan, you should have already pushed the button/pulled the trigger.

THAT, however, is the key. When you have the victim in your sights, PULL THE TRIGGER. Don't wait for a dramatic moment or take a couple seconds to gloat over your victory. Look at Bruce Willis in "The Jackal". He HAD the woman. He had a good 4 minutes during which he could have pushed the button and she would be dead and he'd've won. But he was too busy privately gloating about it. Or something. As soon as the Klingon hits the podium, you pull the trigger. Don't even wait for him to start talking. Otherwise your backup plan WILL fail (no matter how much of a delay your primary plan caused the heroes) and you'll be screwed.

Jimmy Higgins

Why does anyone think this? The heck no, the fact that they captured her would be a good indication that she's back in jail.
I think they said yes in the following episode.
Covered up. Looked like an accident.
Why waste another minute on Kim?
After saving 2 million people? Besides, he was a child molestor.
Because they all had the funk besides the fact they were white. It was a funky administration!

Grumpy

And then I go, OH! The woman who gave Palmer the poison handshake in the final episode IS the woman who blew up the plane in the first episode!

(See, I had thought the assassin was Kingsley's big-snoobed assistant, even though he stabbed her with a letter opener for no reason.)