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Krieger · 07-17-2002, 02:32 PM

We might as well oppose leaving those hunks of metal there though, because you know the Xian-fundies would never allow a Muslim or Atheist symbol to put at the memorial.

fando · 07-18-2002, 03:26 AM

An atheist symbol would be interesting to say the least.

GaryP · 07-18-2002, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by Krieger:
<strong>We might as well oppose leaving those hunks of metal there though, because you know the Xian-fundies would never allow a Muslim or Atheist symbol to put at the memorial.</strong>

I agree. That's why we need to demand to be included. If we just let christians have their way so they won't get mad, a generation from now they will claim that the founding fathers wanted the cross there!

CanoeMan · 07-18-2002, 06:06 AM

How's about <a href="http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/symbol.html" target="_blank">Adrian Barnett's suggestion</a> for an atheist symbol? This would be a great time to actually *get* an universal symbol for atheism.

GaryP · 07-18-2002, 07:09 AM

I don't have time to find the link right now, but it's my understanding that the American Atheists logo is officially recognized by the govt. as far as using it on veteran's graves.

It can be found here

<a href="http://www.atheists.org/" target="_blank">americanatheists.org</a>

DarkBronzePlant · 07-18-2002, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Starspun:
<strong>I personally have a problem with this cross business. Let's look at the logic.

1. God is righteous.
2. Religious fanatics crashed 2 planes into the wtc buildings killing thousands of people.
3. In the debris, 2 steel beams formed a cross(gee, what are the freggin odds). Thus, becoming a 'sign' of divinity.
4. Therefore, god's divine righteousness, as plainly seen by the cross, is the reason behind the whole act.

If I was a xtian, I would BEG to have that cross removed, but, then again, we are speaking logically.

[ July 17, 2002: Message edited by: Starspun ]</strong>

Along those lines is another reason why I wouldn't mind having the "memorial cross" debris remain:

"Yes, tell me again about your loving, caring, compassionate, all-powerful god!"

nogods4me · 07-18-2002, 07:24 AM

the real problem will come when next year every town in the US will want a replica of the WTC cross in front of the it's courthouse and city hall. How then will we be able to stop them if we allow this to go thru?

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07-17-2002, 02:32 PM	#11
Krieger Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: ... Posts: 2,191	We might as well oppose leaving those hunks of metal there though, because you know the Xian-fundies would never allow a Muslim or Atheist symbol to put at the memorial.

07-18-2002, 03:26 AM	#12
fando Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Los Angeles Area Posts: 1,372	An atheist symbol would be interesting to say the least.

07-18-2002, 06:06 AM	#14
CanoeMan Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: out for some Rest 'n Relaxation Posts: 3,106	How's about <a href="http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/symbol.html" target="_blank">Adrian Barnett's suggestion</a> for an atheist symbol? This would be a great time to actually get an universal symbol for atheism.

07-18-2002, 07:09 AM	#15
GaryP Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lancaster, OH Posts: 1,792	I don't have time to find the link right now, but it's my understanding that the American Atheists logo is officially recognized by the govt. as far as using it on veteran's graves. It can be found here <a href="http://www.atheists.org/" target="_blank">americanatheists.org</a>

07-18-2002, 07:24 AM	#17
nogods4me Contributor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 17,432	the real problem will come when next year every town in the US will want a replica of the WTC cross in front of the it's courthouse and city hall. How then will we be able to stop them if we allow this to go thru?

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