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B. H. Manners · 04-30-2002, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Talulah:
Nahh son...we jest know we are right 'cause the good book tells us so and anyone with a shred 'o commen since can read it and see for themselves. Those thar liberal's just don't wanna accept God's awmighty authority.

Seriously though, rural poor people seem to be a lot more conservative and dogmatic. I think this is why the church of christ is not growing and is declining...people aren't that naive anymore. (perhaps)

BH, you profaner of all that is holy, didn't you know that the other churches broke off of US because they were straying?

I'zz guezzed I done been rebuked by sista Talulah. Please sista don't tell ol Br. Bartholomew on me or elze he gonna jump my butt comea Sundae.

Seriously, so you don't think that is what may have happened? I read that from one of our own books and wanted to see what you thought. Oh, well, so much for social theory.

B. H. Manners · 04-30-2002, 02:13 PM

Hey,

I got Martin Burns to do a photoshop on Alexander Campbell, Thomas Campbell, and Barton Stone on page 34 of the PhotoShop Competition down in Humor.

ohwilleke · 04-30-2002, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by BH:
 As all of you are aware, the CoC resulted from a split in the Christian Church/Disciples of Christ movement back in 1906 (although the fights had been going 40 years). When the split occurred the Disciples kept all the colleges, all the educated and formally trained ministers, most of the property and most of the wealthy and middle class members. The COC members tended to be poorer, uneducated, lay untrained preachers and very much zealous.

I had just been thinking about the reverse issue until I hit your post. It is ironic that the COC has so much racism seething within it, while the Disciplies of Christ, which grew from the same tree, is one of the two or three best denominations for a black-white interracial couple, and has a lot of black-white interracial couples.

I'm not too sure about cause and effect in the split. For instance, on the issue of who got the colleges, it is certainly plausible to say the COC didn't get them simply because they didn't trust them.

The notion of Dis of Christ following a "pattern theology" for as long as you suggest is also something I'm not too sure about. I had thought of it as a more dramatic change way back, but, revisionist history from the denominations themsleves can do that.

B. H. Manners · 04-30-2002, 04:13 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ohwilleke:


I had just been thinking about the reverse issue until I hit your post. It is ironic that the COC has so much racism seething within it, while the Disciplies of Christ, which grew from the same tree, is one of the two or three best denominations for a black-white interracial couple, and has a lot of black-white interracial couples.

I'm not too sure about cause and effect in the split. For instance, on the issue of who got the colleges, it is certainly plausible to say the COC didn't get them simply because they didn't trust them.

The notion of Dis of Christ following a "pattern theology" for as long as you suggest is also something I'm not too sure about. I had thought of it as a more dramatic change way back, but, revisionist history from the denominations themsleves can do that.[/QUOTE

All the above is true concerning what you and Talulah said to some degree. Remember that many churches tend to cluster together on certain issues or attitudes and a lot of times this attitude can spread over a large region.
I am not saying THAT was what happened, I am just saying that is what the revisionist folks in the CoC are saying.

04-30-2002, 04:13 PM	#44
B. H. Manners Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,213	[QUOTE]Originally posted by ohwilleke: <strong> I had just been thinking about the reverse issue until I hit your post. It is ironic that the COC has so much racism seething within it, while the Disciplies of Christ, which grew from the same tree, is one of the two or three best denominations for a black-white interracial couple, and has a lot of black-white interracial couples. I'm not too sure about cause and effect in the split. For instance, on the issue of who got the colleges, it is certainly plausible to say the COC didn't get them simply because they didn't trust them. The notion of Dis of Christ following a "pattern theology" for as long as you suggest is also something I'm not too sure about. I had thought of it as a more dramatic change way back, but, revisionist history from the denominations themsleves can do that.</strong>[/QUOTE All the above is true concerning what you and Talulah said to some degree. Remember that many churches tend to cluster together on certain issues or attitudes and a lot of times this attitude can spread over a large region. I am not saying THAT was what happened, I am just saying that is what the revisionist folks in the CoC are saying.

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B. H. Manners Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,213	Hey, I got Martin Burns to do a photoshop on Alexander Campbell, Thomas Campbell, and Barton Stone on page 34 of the PhotoShop Competition down in Humor.

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