Mech Bliss

It's more of a question of "who?" and that would be myself.

That's quite a jump to an irrational conclusion there.

You are arguing on the same grounds of your skewed beliefs regarding atheism. So do you think "atheists/evolutionists" should see infertile people as unnatural and thus unacceptable as well?

You've really done nothing but present a faulty argument based upon misrepresentations of atheism and the theory of evolution. I don't really know what your point is.

Eagel4Jesus

As a theist, my purpose in life is to please God. There you go Steve

And Steve...I'd rather use smaller words than "IT EVOLVED" how about "God did it"?

DD - while my definitions may be incorrect, those are the definitions I am going by when I say I believe in micro and not macro.

I agree I am doing a poor job of arguing, and according to you it is so poor that it cannot even be considered arguing. Since I have other things to do with my life then defend this one point I attempted to make. I will go out like this:

I am 18 and haven't taken Phil Logic & Language or any class like it yet. I will continue to comment on these boards, but be more conservative in my posts, this just takes too much time...

Matt

Ensign Steve

You mean, other to be completely offensive to atheists, evolutionists, homosexuals, and even infertile people?

Ensign Steve

Wrong question. My question was: How does a lesbian who chooses to breed fit into your argument?

Quote:

And Steve...I'd rather use smaller words than "IT EVOLVED" how about "God did it"?

Obvious follow up: What gave god that ability and/or power?

Daleth

Right... complex brain, as others have said. That's what I meant. The answer was simplified in a typical way, and you knew exactly what I meant by it. No need to get picky about word choice.

there were atheists before the theory of evolution, you know. What would you have figured to be the point of their lives?

Dinner time. Yum. I feel like such an animal.
Dal

Doubting Didymus

Sure. I'll show you the evidence that proves that belief wrong, if you like, but it's not on topic in this forum. I'll see you up in E/C if you're interested. In the meantime, you are going to have to stop using those terms. You'll need to find some other way of explaining why you believe only part of a cohesive unifying theory with more support than the theory of gravity without misusing specific terminology.

BrotherMan

Another non sequitur, meaning the one doesn't follow the other. In this case, your friend has a fear of men. Considering the event that happened to her, it's easily understandable. However, her fear of men which stems from that prepubescent trauma is not necessarily at the heart of her being a lesbian. Or, if you prefer anecdotal evidence, let me tell you about one of my friends.

A long time friend of mine is gay. We've spent countless hours discussing damn near everything there is to discuss in the world. He's told me funny stories about his childhood. He's told me some of the not so happy stories from the same period of time. Unlike your friend, mine doesn't have a horrific tale upon which one can seize saying "A-HA! This is what made you gay." Not only has he had what would be considered an otherwise normal life, he has nearly the perfect family. I've met his mother, father and more than half of his siblings. They constitute some of the nicest, smartest, most well rounded human beings on the planet (and I say this despite knowing parts of some of their own tales of woe). My friend is gay. He's not gay because someone or something made him gay. He just is.

tribalbeeyatch

And it isn't even true that brain size has no bearing on intelligence. As a crude measure, an animal's brain mass divided by its body mass is often used to rank the intelligence of different species.

Doubting Didymus

If anyone is interested, there was a good discussion about evolution and homosexuality in the E/C forum recently. Here.

The closing paragraphs of my attempt at a summary near the end of that thread are just as relevant here:

jayh

It's not the size of the words, it's how well the words fit the evidence. If God did it, he did so by creating thousands of species for just a while then killing them off and replacing them with newer species that are similar but not quite the same. And he gradually followed patterns, enhancing some and dead-ending others in these changes. And he buried their bodies in rocks ranging from millions to billions of years old.

Is that what you mean by God did it?

j