York

some interesting books were recomended but i think i will go with William Shirer's, "The Rise and Fall of the Thrid Riech". it sounds like the most interesting one for me to read right now.

question: how would you feel if the 3rd reich existed but never left germany?

Enai

What do you mean "the 3rd reich (...) never left germany"? A regime cannot leave it's country. It can only cease to be. Considering that many of the laws that were brought into effect by Hitlers regime were abolished and that germany has a new constitution (since 1949, no less) and that there have been free, universal and secret elections, freedom of justice and human rights, I'd certainly say that the 3rd Reich is no more. I should know, I live here. Sure, Germany isn't perfect, but I happen to think it's pretty damn good.

Enai

York

lets say germany continued to develop with hitler as leader right till today. no attacking poland, france etc though. replace the germany of today with a 50+ year old 3rd reich. what do you think that kind of germany would be like and would it bother you if it existed.

Enai

Sure it would bother me! After all, I'm living here! But, say, don't you think this topic fares better in a new thread? It seems rather far from your OP.

Enai

Cicero

1. It would still be evil, though, wouldn't it? Read Shirer, and tell me that agian. I dare you.

2. The 3d Riech HAD to have a war...their entire re-vitalized economy depended on it.

RED DAVE

It is my opinion that with york we are either dealing with a clever [deleted]or someone with a massive character defect that leads him to the nazis. In other words, a [deleted]

No one can be that naive, so suspensive (is that a word?) of judgment with regard to one of the most hideous crimes in history, that happened within living memory.

All this skepticism and stupid questioning is either a [deleted]needling us or the thought processes of a [deleted] working out his beliefs, not the groping of an honest skeptic towards the truth.

Why the fuck would anyone care what hitler's regime would be like if it never left Germany. Then only the German Jews would have been extinguished?

Anyone answering york as if he is an honest, if somewhat befuddled, student of history is being taken in either by a very sly or very sick person.

RED DAVE

York

1. i'll have to read the book and let you know.
2. your right it was an nsdap point to aquire land for colonization.

so lets say that the reich takes a few land masses and gets involved in ww2. a stalemate occurs and then finally a peace accord is reached with some concessions on all sides.

fast forward to 2003 and picture a germany with a history as we know it but they have now achieved their perfect aryan country. lets also say for arguements sake that this reich has no world domination aspirations and is actualy respectul to all other peoples and races. its willing to deal with all countries of the world in trade for the beterment of all sides. the snag is that germany is for (aryans)germans and no one else.

question: how would you feel if the 3rd reich existed but never left germany?


lets pretend you qualified as a nazi citizen and liked it there lol. good point, maybe a new thread is in order now.


note: im not using this hypothetical scenario to pull off some cheap win in this thread. both my Op are TKO'ed. btw is the poster of the Op usually expected to defend it?

RED DAVE

From york the nazi:

I would feel, you junior nazi, as if one of the greatest abominations of history had taken place as the millions of Jews of Germany would be dead.

That would be like saying that the nazis weren't nazis. World momination and genocide were the essence of their existence. All your fantasizing, nazi boy, merely points to a mind hopelessly infatuated by the nazis and looking for some kind of approval for your flirtation with mass murder.

RED DAVE

York

i dont approve of the mass murder. countries like america and britain which are(somewhat) regarded in high esteem also have sordid pasts.

RED DAVE

From york the nazi:

Isn't it nice that you don't approve of mass murder. Wherein, then, comes your fascination with the nazis? The sordid pasts of other nations are irrelevant. The implication in your words is that their pasts somehow justifies the nazis.

RED DAVE