Apocolips

Courtesy of David Allen Coe,


He's a gay factory worker from the south,
He takes what you pee out of and puts it in his mouth,
He works all day with a good old smile,
and he carries a large lunch pail
and after work, he's off to the bar,
where he meets his boyfriend Dale
They love the songs, love to dance,
Sometimes without wearing pants,
Come on boys, Let's take a chance,
We'll all change our names to Lance,

CHORUS

He's a gay factory worker from the south,
He'll take what you pee out of and put in his mouth,
With a humph, humph humphity humph (Dale is in his mouth)
SPIT!

I want all gays to teach your children this song, that's if your children or your ex-spouses will talk to you. It really is a cute song, dontcha think? What, this song is offense to your children? Well, please don't inflict your gay agenda on ours. Leave America alone.

SENOR

































SENOR

Ad Astra

Why is equal rights such a difficult concept for you?

Maybe it will be touched on a little in sex-ed classes, but that is for the schools to decide. If they want to leave homosexuality out of the sex-ed lesson plan, they should be able to.

There is no "homosexual lifestyle", just as there is no "heterosexual lifestyle".

Humans are animals. Whether they are refined animals or not is up to debate, especially when people like you are still spreading such blatant lies and allowing your irrational fears to consume youselves.

*Blank stare*

Heterosexuals also tend to have more than one partner, and they can transmit the same diseases. Should we ban all sex now?

No, you have done nothing like that. The only thing you're doing is embarassing yourself.

Well, you do seem to have issues that should be taken care of ASAP.

You're speaking out against something that isn't real. This might be a little difficult for you to grasp, but there is no homosexual agenda.

Yes, Hitler would be very proud of your irrational hatred towards homosexuals. Are you going to make a point any time soon, because this is just the same song as dance we've all heard and easily dismissed.

Ad Astra

Posting song lyrics now, eh? Here's one of my favorite songs:

Imagine -- John Lennon

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isnt hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.

Diadectes

I pity them.

*sigh*. No, we don't. You can no more choose your sexuality than you can choose the colour of your eyes. You can choose not to act upon it, but that is an entirely different matter and not what you are saying at all.

You carry some strange fantasies around in your head. When I was a kid I knew that I was drawn emotionally and, later, sexually towards other men. How many gay men came to me and educated me in the ways of homosexuality? Not one. I didn't even know another gay person until I was 19. How then did I 'learn' to be gay?

You may be able to choose whether or not to have sex with a man or a woman, but all that proves is that you are bisexual.

No it isn't. You have no idea why Mel White left his wife, or are you omniscient? Many gay people marry in an attempt to conform to the social norm. There are many reasons why they feel the need to do this. Pressure from family, fear of being outed in the workplace, self-loathing, realisation that the world is sadly populated by people like you...I could go on. As time goes by, some of thes emen realise the lie that they are living and do what they can to reclaim their lives in spite of paranoid lunatics like yourself. It is often a desperately sad time for all concerned, but it has nothing to do with your argument that being gay is a 'lifestyle choice'.

QUOTE]Should I go on? No. Homosexuals have no character. Gay people have more than 100 partners in a lifetime, hetrosexauls have 8. Homosexuls have a higher occurance of drug use and alcoholism. Suicides are much higher among homosexuals. [/QUOTE]

To use your own words: This is so stupid it is insane.

I am desperately worried for you. You sound like a deeply disturbed individual who is carrying around an awful lot of hatred and, quite possibly, self-loathing. Please, consider seeking help. And no, I am not trying to be be sarcastic. I really mean it.[

dk

dk: I don’t follow… What makes you thin gay/ lesbian/bisexual people don’t father/mother out of wedlock children?
dk: This discussion is about proving Christian fundamentalists = homobigot, not words that start with P.
dk: Homosexuals can help, by setting a good example. On a whole the studies have been inconclusive and of questionable quality with a limited scope. In the 1950s the divorce rate and out of wedlock births were under 5%. In the 1960s public schools were the crown jewel of the Great Society. Proponents of fornication, adultery, family planning, and no-fault divorce claimed science proved a sexually open (liberated) culture would produce many benefits. Many people claimed the Freudian model proved sexual repression was the root cause of most personality/sexual/emotional disorders. Today our prisons bulge with deviants, studies show 1/4 college women have been sexually abused. One third of children are raised by unwed mothers, and half the single mothers live at or below the poverty line. The science turned out to be gravely flawed, unreliable and misleading. The social sciences at best have a checkered political history. Their record often degrades science with errors, scandal, political subterfuge, and fraudulently conclusions. While the physical sciences have produced many marvelous technologies the social sciences still struggle for an empirical foothold. While many people put great faith in the social sciences there objectively is supported by a dearth of empirical evidence. On the record, I'd sooner try to swat a house fly with a hammer. Even on the off chance I hit the mark, the collateral damage would eclipse any pretense of a successful outcome. I don’t want to dissolutions you scigirl but the social sciences are akin to a sledge hammer or wrecking ball, good for logistics, building malls and swatting family problems. I haven’t come to this conclusion because I’m a Christian, but because I can read, count, see, hear, smell, feel and taste.
dk: I agree, HIV/AIDS is a terrible disease I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy, but that's why I can't understand why so many HIV+ gay men celebrated HAART treatment with anonymous sex, its positively psychopathic.
dk: Christianity teaches the necessity of tolerance, hard work, charity and chastity under the heading of virtue. People that acquire virtue in the course of their life learn to overcome obesity, smoking, violence, exercise or anal sex. From a Christian perspective Americans, especially Christian Americans, suffer foolishly and terribly from vices. How do secularists rationalize these self-destructive behaviors?
dk: I mean civilizations, nations, communities, households, families and individuals grow and prosper by solving problems time presents with life affirming solutions. Anal sex is a problem because it spreads and incubates deadly multi-drug resistant microbes in the lower digestive tract, especially in epidemical populations like gay communities. The anal sphincter valve protects the digestive tract from foreign bodies but allows waste to be expelled. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a Christian to understand it’s a bad plan to force objects through the anus, especially a penis. If I were to list all the diseases spread by anal sex it would fill up a book. For all practical purposes I can’t stop anyone from anal sex. Given the epidemiological reality and costs accrued it is ludicrous to institutionalize anal sex in a mock marriage, and it has nothing to do with being a Christian or a homobigot.

JamesKrieger

If you think homosexual marriage is idiotic, then fine, but that doesn't mean it should be made illegal.

I see the idiocy of homobigots like you posting to this board. Does that mean that you should be banned from posting to this board?

You think homosexuals are idiots...that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to get married. You're an idiot...does that mean that you shouldn't be allowed to get married?

I feel sorry for them to have a "friend" like you.

Correlation does not equal causation. Being homosexual does not cause HIV.

Ice cream intake goes up in the summer. So does drowning incidence. Does that mean eating ice cream will make you drown?

And so you now you give evidence supporting the point that homosexuality is not a choice...this child had gay tendencies as a child.

Pedophilia is primarily committed by heterosexual men. The fact that a man offered you an experience does not make that man homosexual.

Claiming something to be the truth, doesn't make it so.

Stating that it's a choice doesn't make it so.

You ignored all the scientific evidence that scigirl gave showing you that it's not a choice. And you ignored posts by homosexuals on this board who have flat out told you that they didn't choose to be homosexual. Yet you ignore all this evidence to hang on to your bigotry.

Bullshit. You have people on this board who told you that they knew they were homosexual without having ever heard of GLAAD or GLSEN.

More unsupported bullshit. I don't see any homosexuals pushing for "homosexuality education classes" in school. I only see them pushing for equal rights and asking that they not be discriminated against based on their sexual orientation.



Stating that it's a lie doesn't make it so. You have provided no evidence that it's a choice. Your anecdotes don't even work as evidence. Scigirl, on the other hand, provided you with scientific evidence that it's natural, and that it's not a choice. You will have to examine and refute that evidence. If you aren't willing to do that, you are telling us that the facts don't really matter to you....you will hang on to your bigotry and sick attitudes no matter what.

More bullshit. Learn the facts about the case. McKinney and Henderson pretended to be gay to lure Matt, because they wanted to rob him.

Ahh, let's blame the victim. Just as people blame women for getting raped because of the way they're dressed. You're sick...absolutely sick.

And you're going to say that "Matt knew the consequences?" Are you saying that he knew he was going to be beaten to death and hung like a scarecrow?

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true.

Bad assumption. Because of people like you, gays will often hide their homosexuality and do things like get married so that they will be accepted by society.

More bullshit. Gene was always homosexual. He suppressed it to try to fit in with society. He suppressed it to avoid the hatred of people like you. Now he no longer is suppressing it.

They didn't decide to come gay. They decided to stop hiding their gayness. WHY CAN'T YOU ADMIT THIS FACT! Because you want to justify your bigotry.

No they don't. They can't get married legally, while you can. That's not equal.

Man, your post is smelling like bullshit.

You obviously ignored scigirl's post. She pointed you to hard evidence that the majority of child molesters are heterosexual.

The Boy Scouts don't want gays because the Boy Scouts are a Christian organization, and Christianity considers homosexuality a sin.

No, YOU have no character. Do you know why? Because you are a bigot. You refuse to face up to scientific evidence that completely refutes your claims. Instead, you hang onto a few anecdotes.

If you truly had character, you would examine the evidence that scigirl gave you, and think your position out more carefully.

The other people on this board have much more character than you.

More bullshit, with no evidence to back it up.


Man, your post reeks of bullshit so bad, I'm having a hard time staying around in here.

The sense of right and wrong is not "engrained" in all people.

You believe homosexuality is wrong because you have been TAUGHT that it's wrong.

I am not a homosexual. I am very attracted to women of the opposite sex. And you know what? I do not think homosexuality is wrong. My "engrained" knowledge says that it's not wrong.


Fallacy of the slippery slope.

Why don't you go to the Netherlands, where homosexual marriage is legal? You know what? They have a lower rate of AIDS, HIV, crime, teen pregnancy, drug use, etc., than our country. So much for homosexual marriage causing problems in society.

Your statements have been thoroughly refuted. However, you refuse to read the refutations, or understand them, and keep spewing out the same bullshit. This makes you a hateful bigot.

Selsaral

Despite any scientific studies, this is obviously wrong. Personally (I am a man), the thought of kissing a man or having sexual relations with a man makes me want to throw up. Seriously, it's revolting to me. I assume it is to you to, based on the way you go on and on about it. Can you choose to be gay? You have no trouble kissing a man? If you can choose to be gay, then you should have absolutely NO aversion to having sex with a man.

Every single homosexual I have ever discussed this with asserts the exact same thing. Homosexuals simply have all the wiring for sexual attraction switched around.

JamesKrieger

Then show us why the studies are inconclusive and questionable quality. Tells us what the problems are with their methods. Tell us why the conclusions are questionable. Tell us what is wrong with the statistics. It's easy to try to sweep everything away with one swipe of your hand. It's much more difficult to actually examine the evidence. So examine it for us, dk. Quit giving us sweeping generalizations, when it's evident to me that you probably haven't even read a fraction the research thats out there.

More bullshit. Have you ever heard of the logical fallacy, post hoc, ergo propter hoc?

If a sexually open society is so bad, then why is it that sexually open societies, like Sweden and the Netherlands, have lower rates of AIDS, HIV, drug use, teen pregancy, crime, etc., than we do?

It has everything to do with being a Christian and homobigot. The Netherlands has legalized same-sex marriage, and they have lower rates of AIDS and HIV than we do....much lower rates. If that's the ludicrous consequence of legalizing same-sex marriage, then I'm all for being ludicrous.

dk

There's little if any empirical evidence to support nature over nurture. I think its fraudulent to ratoinalize one's opinions on science absent empirical evidence. A clear violation of human rights to impose one's opinions on others with the force of law under the guise of science, in matters where the science is bogus. We have a right to our opinions and the ballot box.

Tufted

Much of Senior Boogie Woogie's sentiments are described in this hate filled christian (I think not!) website.

www.godhatesfags.com

So much venom. I'll tell you who God hates - BIGOTS!!!