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Chuck · 06-19-2003, 12:41 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/19/al...lea/index.html

So let me get this straight. The American military, so lauded for their action in Afghanistan and Iraq, cannot find this 6'5" Arab man on dialysis. But this "hardworking truck driver" can meet with him?

I'm so confused right now.

Chuck

ex-idaho · 06-19-2003, 01:05 PM

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Al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told interrogators that Faris was ordered to perform surveillance of the Brooklyn Bridge with the ultimate goal of cutting its cables, sources told CNN.

And what did Mohammed gain from informing on this plot? Is this a case of if we lighten your sentence will you give us names? If so I find that info to be highly questionable.

I am not doubting that the Justice Dept is wrong I just want to know why a man as ideologically opposed to the US would decide to assist us in halting his plans to destroy us.

Thor Q. Mada · 06-19-2003, 08:03 PM

Well, Here what I posted as a separate thread:

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Impressive,

An American Pakistani was going to cut the suspension wires of the Brooklyn bridge with an acythelene torch!!
I have now a whole new insight in the professionalism of Al Quada.
For a acythelene cutter to do any decent work one needs two heavy gasbottles, one for oxygene and one for acythelene. The cutting torch makes a sharp hissing sound and gives a lot of light and sparks. For a job like this bridge, one acythelene bottle surely would not suffice. Bringing these bottles into location would hardly go unnoticed. We are talking here hours of cutting.
And does anyone think the bridge is hanging on one cable only??
The whole operation would be as in-obtrusive as naked dancing on top of the statue in Trafalgar square in winter.
These guys are real professionals.
What is next? They might try to dismantle the empire state building stone by stone without anyone noticing??
Rediculous!!

unquote

Optional · 06-20-2003, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by Thor Q. Mada
Well, Here what I posted as a separate thread:

quote

Impressive,

An American Pakistani was going to cut the suspension wires of the Brooklyn bridge with an acythelene torch!!
I have now a whole new insight in the professionalism of Al Quada.
For a acythelene cutter to do any decent work one needs two heavy gasbottles, one for oxygene and one for acythelene. The cutting torch makes a sharp hissing sound and gives a lot of light and sparks. For a job like this bridge, one acythelene bottle surely would not suffice. Bringing these bottles into location would hardly go unnoticed. We are talking here hours of cutting.
And does anyone think the bridge is hanging on one cable only??
The whole operation would be as in-obtrusive as naked dancing on top of the statue in Trafalgar square in winter.
These guys are real professionals.
What is next? They might try to dismantle the empire state building stone by stone without anyone noticing??
Rediculous!!

unquote

From what I've heard, the guy was apparently supposed to do it, but he went and looked at the situation, and called the whole thing off because he figured there's no way he could actually accomplish it. Smart boy.

-me

Autonemesis · 06-20-2003, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Thor Q. Mada
An American Pakistani was going to cut the suspension wires of the Brooklyn bridge with an acythelene torch!!
I have now a whole new insight in the professionalism of Al Quada.

Ummmm... they didn't try the plot. They decided it wasn't doable. I'm confused what your point is, since it lacks any congruence to the facts of the story.

Joe6Pack · 06-20-2003, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by Chuck Fristians
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/19/al...lea/index.html

So let me get this straight. The American military, so lauded for their action in Afghanistan and Iraq, cannot find this 6'5" Arab man on dialysis. But this "hardworking truck driver" can meet with him?

I'm so confused right now.

Chuck

It's called "timeline" Chuck, This truck driver is said to have met with Bin Laden in 2000 in Afghanistan. That would have precluded the US military action there. I hope this clears up your confusion.

Blixy Sticks · 06-20-2003, 08:38 AM

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Al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is in U.S. custody, told interrogators that Faris was ordered to perform surveillance of the Brooklyn Bridge with the ultimate goal of cutting its cables, sources told CNN.

Cutting the cables of the Brooklyn Bridge? You have to be kidding!! Right?? This is the same bunch that masterminded and pulled off 9/11??

When are you people going to learn??

Never...that's when!!!

Blixy Sticks · 06-20-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Joe6Pack
It's called "timeline" Chuck, This truck driver is said to have met with Bin Laden in 2000 in Afghanistan. That would have precluded the US military action there. I hope this clears up your confusion.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the CIA was there though!!

Joe6Pack · 06-20-2003, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by Blixy Sticks
You can bet your bottom dollar that the CIA was there though!!

Well, someone had to tend the poppy fields

Chuck · 06-20-2003, 11:38 AM

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It's called "timeline" Chuck, This truck driver is said to have met with Bin Laden in 2000 in Afghanistan. That would have precluded the US military action there. I hope this clears up your confusion.

Ah yes, the "timeline." From the FBI website:

USAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

The date on the poster is June, 1999. I hope this clears up your confusion.

06-19-2003, 12:41 PM	#1
Chuck Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: gone Posts: 3,953	Al Qaeda's Long Haul Freight Driver http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/19/al...lea/index.html So let me get this straight. The American military, so lauded for their action in Afghanistan and Iraq, cannot find this 6'5" Arab man on dialysis. But this "hardworking truck driver" can meet with him? I'm so confused right now. Chuck

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06-19-2003, 08:03 PM	#3
Thor Q. Mada Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Asia Posts: 3,558	Well, Here what I posted as a separate thread: quote Impressive, An American Pakistani was going to cut the suspension wires of the Brooklyn bridge with an acythelene torch!! I have now a whole new insight in the professionalism of Al Quada. For a acythelene cutter to do any decent work one needs two heavy gasbottles, one for oxygene and one for acythelene. The cutting torch makes a sharp hissing sound and gives a lot of light and sparks. For a job like this bridge, one acythelene bottle surely would not suffice. Bringing these bottles into location would hardly go unnoticed. We are talking here hours of cutting. And does anyone think the bridge is hanging on one cable only?? The whole operation would be as in-obtrusive as naked dancing on top of the statue in Trafalgar square in winter. These guys are real professionals. What is next? They might try to dismantle the empire state building stone by stone without anyone noticing?? Rediculous!! unquote

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