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Old 02-28-2003, 04:59 PM   #31
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Henry Rollins was in David Lynch's movie Lost Highway as well, if memory serves. He was one of the guards at the prison where the lead character was incarcerated for the murder of his wife.
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Getting back to Rushdie, Midnight's Children is a great novel and his recent collection of essays, Step Across This Line, is pretty good as well.
All in all, Rushdie's cool in my book.

Mind you, Henry Rollins is rather studly as well. I really like his song "Liar" as well.
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What I wanna know is, how can people not remember the guy with the Huge. Fucking. Neck?

(That's Rollins, not Rushdie )
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Old 02-28-2003, 08:18 PM   #34
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Well I guess you just listen to a lot of really bad rock music then.

as for your questions, yes. Of all the hardcore bands of the 1980's Black Flag was probably the biggest, maybe second after Dead Kennedys. They had songs on the radio and even a video on MTV (for the song TV party).


Dead Kennedys, I've heard of. I think maybe you and I have a different definition of hardcore.

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of course this was 1980s hardcore, so it was more of a word-of-mouth thing... or a scene thing. But even then, Black Flag have been almost universally cannonized as one of the most important 80s bands. For example, Rolling Stones but Black Flag on their 200 most important rock CD's list a couple years back.
universally canonized?

LMFAO. You'd think then that more people would have heard of them. Let me explain... "universally canonized" is a term best reserved for acts like the Beatles, Elvis, Stones, Zep, Metallica, etc. You know... acts that are freaking HUGE.

Black Flag? har de har har.

I guess they are in the Rock Hall of Fame, right next to Anthrax.

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Of course if you never listened to hardcore you wouldn't know black flag probably. I would recommend checking them out.

p.s. 100 cds is not bad, but it certainly isn't so many id be bragging about it.
um, at LEAST 100 cd's, and that's just what I went back and bought after CDs came out. There's no telling how many cassettes I had that I chose not to replace at $15 a pop.
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Metallica? They aren't a hardcore rock band!! They're a soft cock pop band if you ask me!

Sounds like you might have been more of a rock RADIO fan, that a true rock BAND fan.

Not that it really matters, as it's all bollocks anyway.

Heh.
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[B]Metallica? They aren't a hardcore rock band!! They're a soft cock pop band if you ask me!
Well, I was talking about the 80s. Metallica has since pulled a Def Leppard, I agree.

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Sounds like you might have been more of a rock RADIO fan, that a true rock BAND fan.
Try Kill'em All or Ride the Lightning, and then come back and tell me that Metallica was a radio band.

There was a long period in the 80s when Metallica was an incredible underground speed-metal band. I remember them selling out the Cotton Bowl in Texas WITHOUT ANY AIRPLAY. And all you saw during the entire show was a sea of pumping fists. They were, before they became 'artists', amazing.

Now I hate them.
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I really like his song "Liar" as well.
That was a song?
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Love his spoken word! I'm still pissed that I missed his performance when he came through my home town a while back. [/B]
Yeah me too!!!

BTW.. he has grey hair now? Wtf is that all about??
 
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Metallica was not SPEED metal, they were thrash metal. Corrosion of conformity or Slayer were speed metal.



I think maybe you and I have a different definition of hardcore.
im using a standard "definition." hardcore is what punk was called in america. Though later on the genre split into hardcore AND punk, and then of course split into a thousand little genres. (I don't think any genre has more subgenres than punk except maybe metal)

universally canonized?

I meant cononized as very important and influential bands. And yes Black Flag would be there next to The Pixies, Wire, Velvet Underground and lots of other very good/important/influential bands that aren't that reconized by most people.

Anyway the deal is black flag was a big band, Rollins band is an even bigger band, Henry Rollins owns an important record label, wrote books, has a pretty famous spoken word career (he was on comedy central recently) and has appeared in several movies.

If you dont' know him, thats fine. But lots and lots of people do. end of story. someone was talking about a bumper sticker, not something the whole world needs to get.
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....important and influential bands. And yes Black Flag would be there next to The Pixies, Wire, Velvet Underground and lots of other very good/important/influential bands that aren't that reconized by most people.

This is a good point. Many, if not most musicians will cite other bands and musicians as major influences. Many of those cited influential bands and muso's did not have a mass audience, did not get a great deal of radio play, and for the most part were relatively unknown to the more general 'music fan' population. But that doesn't undermine how ground-breaking and influential to other musicians their music was/is.

Oh, and no - I haven't read any Salmon Rushdie.
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