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Amen-Moses · 07-16-2003, 06:39 AM

Pederasty and pedophilia are two different things, pedophilia is where an adult is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (for legal purposes the age limit is defined as 12 but commonly it is 9 and below).

The vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual, the vast majority of pederasts are also heterosexual but tend to be overlooked as 14-18 year olds (or in the UK 14-16) engaging in sexual activities with adults is not exactly looked on as being anything particularly bad but historically homosexual age of consent was much higher (it has only recently come down from 21 here) so there is still some residual "ickiness" factor in similar homosexual activities and a highr rate of reporting.

The 12-14 age group is a grey area, cases may be prosecuted in either direction depending on how developed the "victim" may appear to the court.

Amen-Moses

Bree · 07-16-2003, 06:49 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
I don't know if I can do you justice, but I said earlier in the thread that I thought homosexuality, pedophilia and gluttony had a common root. By that I meant that all compulsive behavior is made of the same stuff, if you will. It's not that homosexuals are all latent pedophiles, any more than religious hypocrites are all latent Torquemadas. Homosexual activists can't say no to NAMBLA for the same reason Cardinal Law couldn't say no to pedophilic priests: excessive identification with and sympathy for the wrong in these people.

What?!?

So homosexuality is a compulsive behaviour? Oh hi, mom and dad, I just decided to like women (even though I've only ever slept with men) for the hell of it - just to piss you off and get kicked out of the house. Compulsive behaviour, you know <chuckles>.

You're saying that because homosexuals are "in the wrong" they automatically identify with other people who have wrong in them - pedophiles and fat people? Is that the only arguement you have?

noli · 07-16-2003, 07:02 AM

Pederasty and pedophilia are two different things, pedophilia is where an adult is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (for legal purposes the age limit is defined as 12 but commonly it is 9 and below).

Interesting. That may be the legal definition, I was just trying to remain consistent witht the sources.

ped�er�ast ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pd-rst)
n.
A man who has sexual relations, especially anal intercourse, with a boy.

That's it from dictionary.com

yguy · 07-16-2003, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Abacus
And besides, most pedophiles are heterosexual anyways.

Of course they are, because 95% of all people are heterosexuals.

yguy · 07-16-2003, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by Amen-Moses
So why isn't heterosexuality made of the same stuff?

It is, IMO. That's why there is a legitimate embarassment about it.

It would also explain why the straight community had just as much problem saying no to "gay" activists as "gay" activists have saying no to NAMBLA - many of the acts heteros claimed to find disgusting as practiced by "gays" they were indulging in themselves. The awareness of this hypocrisy is what embodened the activists, just as the "gay" activists' hypocrisy emboldened NAMBLA.

Godless Dave · 07-16-2003, 08:19 AM

Yguy, you have yet to make any effort to distance yourself from puppy-beating. Why do you enjoy inflicting pain on puppies?

yguy · 07-16-2003, 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by Godless Dave
Yguy, you have yet to make any effort to distance yourself from puppy-beating. Why do you enjoy inflicting pain on puppies?

This is your idea of shining the light of truth on my "homophobia"?

Really?

Bree · 07-16-2003, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
It would also explain why the straight community had just as much problem saying no to "gay" activists as "gay" activists have saying no to NAMBLA - many of the acts heteros claimed to find disgusting as practiced by "gays" they were indulging in themselves.

Oh, so now the reason gay activists don't take an stand against pedophilia is because they're indulging in these acts themselves?

contracycle · 07-16-2003, 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by yguy
This is your idea of shining the light of truth on my "homophobia"?

Really?

No, on your puppybeating. So tell us again why you have not distanced yourself from puppy beating. You don't, like, approve of beating puppies do you?

Godless Dave · 07-16-2003, 08:43 AM

yguy, as you can see the perception that you beat puppies to death for fun is widespread and pervasive.

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07-16-2003, 06:39 AM	#181
Amen-Moses Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Portsmouth, England Posts: 4,652	Pederasty and pedophilia are two different things, pedophilia is where an adult is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (for legal purposes the age limit is defined as 12 but commonly it is 9 and below). The vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexual, the vast majority of pederasts are also heterosexual but tend to be overlooked as 14-18 year olds (or in the UK 14-16) engaging in sexual activities with adults is not exactly looked on as being anything particularly bad but historically homosexual age of consent was much higher (it has only recently come down from 21 here) so there is still some residual "ickiness" factor in similar homosexual activities and a highr rate of reporting. The 12-14 age group is a grey area, cases may be prosecuted in either direction depending on how developed the "victim" may appear to the court. Amen-Moses

07-16-2003, 07:02 AM	#183
noli Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 20	Pederasty and pedophilia are two different things, pedophilia is where an adult is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children (for legal purposes the age limit is defined as 12 but commonly it is 9 and below). Interesting. That may be the legal definition, I was just trying to remain consistent witht the sources. ped�er�ast ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pd-rst) n. A man who has sexual relations, especially anal intercourse, with a boy. That's it from dictionary.com

07-16-2003, 08:19 AM	#186
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	Yguy, you have yet to make any effort to distance yourself from puppy-beating. Why do you enjoy inflicting pain on puppies?

07-16-2003, 08:43 AM	#190
Godless Dave Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: With 10,000 lakes who needs a coast? Posts: 10,762	yguy, as you can see the perception that you beat puppies to death for fun is widespread and pervasive.

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