Jimmy Higgins

The Moody Blue's are X-men?

luvluv

You're probably right, Writer@Large, but I just always loved Gladiator and I want to see him in pictures.

Still, I don't see how the Phoenix saga can be neatly compacted into a single movie.

Furthermore, I want some Juggernaught for the last movie.

Finally, what are your thoughts on crossovers in the mighty marvel manner?

You think we'll ever see, say, the Hulk in a Spider-Man movie, or Spider-Man in an X-men movie, or even any hint that they all live in the same world?

I guess I'm getting carried away here, but I've always wanted to see one of those building-toppling all out brawls between, say, the Thing and the Hulk in a movie.

Deacon

They kinda went through this when Daredevil came out because the Kingpin and Ben Urich are also Spider-Man characters, but since both comics are "owned" by two different studios, it was decided that The Kingpin would be a Daredevil-only character along with Urich.

But I think that all still remains open because think about how many times studios share in production costs and co-distribute a feature? I mean the ultimate would be to do an Inifinity Wars type film and have just frickin' everybody even if it cost like $200 mil to make. How cool would that be? Or even on a lower level a Daredevil-Spider-Man team up would be kinda cool, but then again the Spider-Man franchise doesn't need a lot of help.

LianaLi

Rogue as useless? I think we might be asking too much from a little teenaged girl who ran away from home. Granted, she was whiny and hysterical the entire time, but she rose to the occasion, the few times she was in a conflict in the movie. First was with Pyro- I don't think she had been trained to use her power that much. I mean, who's going to stand up and volunteer for getting their life sucked out of them while Rogue plays with it? Bobby doesn't count. Second, she does try to fly the x-men plane and subsequently crash it, but hey, it wasn't bad for a first try. I think we'll see Rogue develop a little more and become a little more assertive in the next movie. (And hopefully lose the whiny-ness)

Actually, I thought it was her stint in Cerebro that triggered her change into the Phoenix. If I remember the line right, Jean said "For someone like me..." with Scott finishing the line for her after she walks off "For someone like her, it could kill her." The indication that she survived using Cerebro showed that Jean had alot more power behind her than she may have ever indicated.

Oh, yeah, one last objection- Professor X as useless? What? He has the power, with Cerebro, to kill half the bloody world, mutant or human, and he's useless? Remember, they couldn't use the cerebral fluid from the Stryker's son, because Xavier's mind was too strong. Notice that even Magneto succummed to the fluid. The reason that everyone keeps going for the Professor is that they know they aren't any match for him when he's in control. I think Xavier, like Rogue, captures the extremes of the mutant delimna. They have this incredible power at their fingertips, but it's all housed in this fragile body which people can easily destroy. Plus you throw in the morals which makes for a completely fun mishmash of "with great power comes great responsibility" or "we are the next step in the evoluntionary chain" delimna.

Other rambling points- I can't wait for Rogue to fly. I adore Mystique- that whole sliding under the door while flipping the bad guys the bird- oh, to have that kind of style. I only wish that the X-men had someone as useful and dynamic as Mystique. Oh, they'll get there eventually, as soon as Xavier gains a little ruthlessness. It's hard to watch the good guys have such amazing potential, but not use it. It's there- anyone else get a big kick out of Xavier's threat to Wolverine in Cerebro?

-Liana

Monkeybot

Actually, that's sort of what I appreciated about X2's special effects -- they were so seamless you barely noticed them. Mystique's changes, Wolvie's claws, and Magneto's prison break all came off so smoothly it was easy to forget there were effects involved. At least from my perspective.

(Although Nightcrawler's fight is not in this category -- it's in the jaw-dropping category!)

Pierre Bezukhov

A reviewer pointed out, and I agree, that the relationship between Magneto and Mystique is really fun. You see a mutual respect and friendship between the two - a leader and his indispensable right-hand "man". They truly appeared to enjoy each others company.

Shadowy Man

THe opening sequence with Nightcrawler in the White House was as good as anything the Wachowski brothers have done.. and it was done without being derivative too!! Just brilliant!!

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Scotty

I just have to mention that this is the "official" version of the Phoenix, but it is not what Chris Claremont originally wanted. He killed off Jean within the story line because of Marvel. Marvel came back and made him change the story, that is why you have this lame cocoon crap (Marvel didn't want one of their good characters killing off so many people. IIRC she blasted an entire planet to bits so they had him kill off that character and bring back the original Jean).
I remember reading that story and thinking it was one of the dumbest things. Then I read Claremonts response.

Anyway, haven't seen the movie yet, but I don't expect a movie to follow the comics, although I would like to see The Brood.

-Scott

Shadowy Man

Yeah, I didn't like the whole cocoon thing. It was just a way for them to create X-Factor and bring back the original X-Men, since the new group was getting so popular and the X-titles were selling so well.

And don't get me started on Madelyn Pryor!! Ugh...

When I really started to lose interest was with all the alternate futures and people coming back and going forward. It got so confusing that I just stopped caring.

Scotty

I did like Alan Davis (that the artist?) that did X-Factor for a long time. Wow, did he know how to draw women or what

-Scott