iversong

I get this from Romans 3:4

.... "That thou mayest be justified in thy words, and prevail when thou art judged." But if our wickedness serves to show the justice of God, what shall we say? That God is unjust to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) By no means! For then how could God judge the world?

Paul is saying we are judged by our words. Also he says that through human wickedness, God shows His justice by His wrath.

I don’t know if this totally satisfies your question.

CALDONIA

OK, God loves us.

If he is loving, understanding, merciful, and omniscient, what logic compels HIM to send anyone to spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire (or Lake Superior, not quite as hot)?

Seems like God harbors a grudge against Adam and is taking it out on the rest of us.

Pretty juvenile behavior, if you ask me.

philechat

God is love.

Love is a mental state.

Conclusion: God is a mental state?

JEST2ASK

I thought that once someone accepts Jesus - Christ than all their sins are forgiven ... that God does not consider sins having any Qualitive or Quantative difference so that Hitler and Mother Teresa ....... both truly believing on Jesus Christ will be treated the same at Judgement ... In fact it is disbelief / failure to accept Jesus that is punished ......or I am a wrong, if so please correct my error.....:notworthy :notworthy


And also please explain
[b]*** "Without retribution for those who were victimized, God would be unjust. " ****

DBrant

No, I don't understand; instead, I see through.

Tell me -- if I read the Bible with an open mind, and I still don't believe in it, did I read it with an open mind?

WWSD

Originally posted by 7thangel

My point, is that love has something to do with "grace." Unlike us, humans, who demands something in return, or feel the obligation to do so, the love of God is not so. God bestowed upon us his love not because of obligation, or sort of debt, but of his own goodness. If we just can understand how God bestowed upon us love through grace, then we have a difinite meaning of God's love. Unfortunately, most Christians, because of their doctrines of the neccessity of work, they fail to show that the love of God is actually of grace.

I disagree, I do not always love in the hopes of gaining a return for myself, nor do I always love out of a sense of obligation. I rarely demand anything in return for love, except that one does not punch me in the face or spit on my grave.

Is it not possible that I might love someone simple out of goodness? Perhaps I love someone simply because they are worthy of that. But then, does that fit under your catagory of obligation?

GrandDesigner

Seems like God harbors a grudge against Adam and is taking it out on the rest of us.

'Seems' is a very powerful word. One day, it'll seem like you're dead. Neat.

Pretty juvenile behavior, if you ask me.

I think somewhere it also mentions God is a jealous God and shall have no others before Him.

Do you judge jealousy as a fairly juvenile behaviour and thus judge God a second time negatively?

There 'seems' to be an awful lot of judging going on.

Grand ol' Designer

Shinobi

What are you saying granddesigner?

Stormy

All things work for good to those who love God.

Maybe you are on the wrong side of the equation?

Philosoft

This is demonstrably untrue.
What equation? You just made an incorrect absolute statement.